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Heliocentric
05-07-2011, 09:26 AM
It's 2.49 right now, hot or not?

BenWah
05-07-2011, 10:20 AM
It's too buggy.

What you should buy instead, is M&B Warband, which is also 75% off

Lacessit
05-07-2011, 10:22 AM
Yes well, I got the whole dang kaboodle to be sure, the very first one too, to be on the safe side. Should I start at numer one? Or just skip that?

QuantaCat
05-07-2011, 10:38 AM
What the hell, this game works. Its getting patched all the time, and it is hella fun. GET IT. ITS A STEAL. Of course warband is fantastic as a whole, but it is a different beast to the others. And in my opinion, different enough that it deserves its own playthrough. I know people disagree, I dont give a fuck. Its only two fifty!

Olero
05-07-2011, 10:49 AM
Get Warband and Fire & Sword. Both great, but different. And the bugs are not as big anymore, so both are pretty much playable. And prodding persons of a horse never gets old, as does shooting them. Both games are some of the most downright fun games I've played in the the last years!

Joseph
05-07-2011, 01:08 PM
Yes well, I got the whole dang kaboodle to be sure, the very first one too, to be on the safe side. Should I start at numer one? Or just skip that?

Well Warband is more or less an expansion to Mount and Blade, the only thing really different is the map. So Don't bother play the original Mount and Blade and just go for Warband and Fire & Sword

Jamison Dance
06-07-2011, 04:38 AM
I just got it, and am a little lost. Are there any guides for the game?

Berzee
06-07-2011, 04:53 AM
I played the bejeebers out of the Warband campaign, and then I got sick of it when I started owning castles and having to grind through hundreds of defenders or beseigers...though now I realize I could have sent my troops to fight without me, but I never thought of that because I am such a noble leader(?). However, when I get a little extra time, I am going to have a good look at the cRPG mod for Warband.

Don't know much about Fire and Sword except that the hats are a lot more impressive. =P

Mechanicus_
06-07-2011, 10:08 AM
Flying in the face of all advice, I bought Fire and Sword rather than Warband (I like woosh-bang MUSKETS!).

However it would be really nice if it looked a bit less bums. Are there any mods for Fire and Sword similar to the Floris Expanded Mod Pack for Warband which just focus on graphical enhancements and/or sensible gameplay improvements without adding a billion fiddly gameplay nobsticks that my M&B-newbie brain won't understand?

Lukasz
06-07-2011, 01:28 PM
I just got it, and am a little lost. Are there any guides for the game?
youtube
lets play warband/fire and sword

i found this method to be the best in learning how to start playing complicated games.

and anyone knows how much cd projekt contributed to the development of this game?

lunarplasma
06-07-2011, 01:36 PM
Am I imagining things, or did I read that actually, WFaS is actually using a less-advanced engine/client compared to Warband?

Lacessit
06-07-2011, 02:11 PM
Btw, to all the people still dithering on fences about this: I started playing yesterday and it's horribly horribly good. So addictive. And just as forgiving or punishing as you want it to be! GET IT!

Creeping Death
06-07-2011, 05:08 PM
Am I imagining things, or did I read that actually, WFaS is actually using a less-advanced engine/client compared to Warband?


I believe so. From what I've heard WFaS started life as a mod for original Mount and Blade, so I guess it would make sense




and anyone knows how much cd projekt contributed to the development of this game?

Erm, none at all? I'm confused, why would they have contributed to MnB? :/

Lukasz
06-07-2011, 05:49 PM
Erm, none at all? I'm confused, why would they have contributed to MnB? :/
not to mnb but to mnb:wfas

a) wiki says they developed it together with original developers
b) it is sortof based on Polish book: Henryk Sienkiewicz's With Fire and Sword

sooo i wonder what is the history of this game?

Christian
06-07-2011, 07:04 PM
Btw, to all the people still dithering on fences about this: I started playing yesterday and it's horribly horribly good. So addictive. And just as forgiving or punishing as you want it to be! GET IT!

Yeah, I've been playing it a bit the last days and it is kind of fun. But hard, very unforgiving if you don't watch out. I really enjoyed the original M&B (about 106 hours according to Steam), but in Fire & Sword it seems so much more difficult to survive.
Or is that because I started playing a female character?

But regarding the guns: I was surprised how fun they are once you get used to the aiming..

archonsod
06-07-2011, 08:55 PM
Am I imagining things, or did I read that actually, WFaS is actually using a less-advanced engine/client compared to Warband?

Warband is just an extension of the M&B code, so depending on what you're referring to by "engine" that's something of a non-sensical statement. The version WFaS is based on is Warband, albeit a version somewhat earlier than the released version of Warband.

WRT CDProjekt they had no involvement in development whatsoever, they published the original, Mount & Blade based expansion in Eastern Europe. SiCH studio are the developers of all versions. Taleworlds assisted in developing the latest version (the one you can get from Steam). Snowberry assisted with funding (they're a Russian based company which specialises in getting funding for small developers) and Paradox published it.

Jamison Dance
06-07-2011, 09:25 PM
Yeah, I got into it and have already lost four hours in the blink of an eye. I have spent lots of time in the Baltics, so the setting is perfect for me. This is a great game. Also, it may be the second-best war-themed hat-simulator, if you are in to hats.

ezekiel2517
06-07-2011, 11:39 PM
Mods for With Fire & Sword won't be anything significant until some tools are released. Later patches will also add Warband features that are missing, like making your own Kingdom and getting married (which is quite handy, unlike RL).

Kelron
06-07-2011, 11:47 PM
Fire & Sword is good fun, if you don't mind occasionally being killed out of nowhere by a musket shot. I'm not sure it feels like as complete a game as Warband, but the game is different enough to be interesting for fans of the series and similar enough to share the same appeal.

ezekiel2517
07-07-2011, 12:10 AM
It is not difficult to avoid getting shot. Just ride your horse fast and without going straight to them or stand near your troops without staying too still. I like placing myself on my halberd line and I almost never get shot.

Kelron
07-07-2011, 12:26 AM
It doesn't happen frequently, but you still have the potential for a bullet to kill you instantly even on 1/4 damage, especially at the start when you can't afford good armour. It's different from the previous games where arrows can be easily blocked with shields and generally don't hurt that much anyway, on easy difficulty.

Smashbox
07-07-2011, 12:40 AM
I've been having a blast with Warband this week. At least I was before I bit off a bit more than I could chew. Those farmhands don't really stack up very well in a real battle.

ezekiel2517
07-07-2011, 01:09 AM
You can also block bullets with shields. They don't stop them as good as arrows, but it can keep you on the battle considerably longer.

Dual wield a shield and a double barreled pistol and you will kill and live an entire battle or siege without trouble.

Flobulon
07-07-2011, 01:10 AM
Yeah, Warband has taken over my life these past couple of days. Was pretty tough at first, until I learned to just accompany the big armies and get all the glory by leading the charge of 500 men, 20 of them mine. And I just know there's so much I haven't even scratched the surface of yet.

QuantaCat
07-07-2011, 08:32 AM
I found strafing to work better. also charge a bit later than the rest of your forces. :D

Olero
07-07-2011, 09:24 AM
I found strafing to work better. also charge a bit later than the rest of your forces. :D

Heh, also my "tactic". Also works is taking potshots and riding around while reloading, just like mr. Quinns was doing in his cpt. Smith diary. The only thing I haven't tried are the grenades. Should be fun as well!

QuantaCat
07-07-2011, 11:12 AM
Grenades are tricky. You have to take care not to hit your own troops. If I bring grenades, I usually tell my troops to hold position, then I sneak up on the enemy from a hill or something so I can make a quick retreat, tell them to charge, THEN bomb the fuck out of any groups of enemies.