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Diesel-
23-10-2012, 09:48 AM
Are you expecting Crysis 3 to be good? I have little hope. it can turn out surprisingly good. From what i have seen it is shaping to be better than Crysis 2. Crysis 2 on its own was OK game but compare to Original its FAIL. so do u think Crysis 3 will be any good? Discuss

Mohorovicic
23-10-2012, 09:53 AM
Gameplay-wise it looks just like 2 - mostly linear levels with enemy spawns with tacked on stealth. It also makes little sense setting-wise, since all the CEPH should be dead and what is CELL even doing there. Hell, why do they even still exist.

But it's going to be oh so pretty and I like the literal approach to "city jungle". That's a setting we very rarely get to see.

Hell, isn't it the first time for an FPS?

Heliocentric
23-10-2012, 09:58 AM
Mans will be shot, health with regenerate, sales will fail to surpass Duty of Hono(u)r 7, franchise will be terminated.

Sketch
23-10-2012, 09:58 AM
I thought Crysis 2 was a nice fun rooty tooty point and shooty, and offered just enough gameplay approaches to stop it being too linear. It's a shame it's more limited than 1, but to me it felt more fun to play. So I'm semi-excited about this.

Mohorovicic
23-10-2012, 10:10 AM
Mans will be shot, health with regenerate, sales will fail to surpass Duty of Hono(u)r 7, franchise will be terminated.

Sales of Crysis have always been "bad"(or so Yerli said himself, despite the first game selling over a million copies) and yet it keeps on going.

You are probably right about Mens being shot though. Then again you can always limit yourself to backstabs and throwing dustbins at people!

DaftPunk
23-10-2012, 10:12 AM
Can someone summon up the story of Crysis 2 for me,in a short way,can't bother reading on wiki :D

Mohorovicic
23-10-2012, 10:17 AM
Can someone summon up the story of Crysis 2 for me,in a short way,can't bother reading on wiki :D

/* Fuck everything that happened in Crysis, New York is occupied by nazis and aliens, Prophet is a bro and saves your life by giving you the Nanosuit, aliens want to deploy Bird Flu 2.0 but you use the Nanosuit to reprogram it so that it kills aliens instead of humans. Credits roll. */

DaftPunk
23-10-2012, 10:22 AM
Haha CryTek need new writer :D I mean story in Crysis 1 wasn't anything special but it served the settings and gameplay,and i expected second one to start where first one ended,only logical thought right ? xD

Otherwise i put about 2 hours in Crysis 2 but couldn't contiune after that,its not bad game on its own but compared to first two games,which i completed so many times.. :(

Gwilym
23-10-2012, 10:40 AM
Of course it's going to be good; Crytek have never released anything that's not. And I'm including Crysis 2, which I thought was great. I spent nearly as much time replaying each checkpoint as I did in 1, Warhead or Far Cry, so unless I'm secretly really stupid and like doing the same thing over and over, I'm fairly sure I found plenty of variety and emergent gameplay in it. Not as blatantly much as in the first, sure, but everything was also more polished and directed. Two sides to every coin, etc.

soldant
23-10-2012, 11:11 AM
It'll be the best interactive benchmark ever released.

Oh wait, you mean as a game? It'll be STEALTH MODE: ENGAGED just like the previous two. But it won't matter because all anybody will ever do is talk about framerate, graphical fidelity, and make jokes like can the Hubble Space Telescope run Crysis.

Mohorovicic
23-10-2012, 11:14 AM
First thing I do in every Crysis game is turn off the suit voice. I'd go mad.

DaftPunk
23-10-2012, 11:16 AM
It'll be the best interactive benchmark ever released.

Oh wait, you mean as a game? It'll be STEALTH MODE: ENGAGED just like the previous two. But it won't matter because all anybody will ever do is talk about framerate, graphical fidelity, and make jokes like can the Hubble Space Telescope run Crysis.



Your fault you played games in stealth mod,game gives various options so use them.

coldvvvave
23-10-2012, 11:17 AM
Haha CryTek need new writer
They actually hired a guy who wrote Altered Carbon. But reading this spoiler I'm not sure it was a good idea.

Gwilym
23-10-2012, 11:23 AM
The overall story is crap, but the moment-to-moment writing is definitely enjoyable and definitely a cut above previous Crytek offerings.

Diesel-
23-10-2012, 11:24 AM
First thing I do in every Crysis game is turn off the suit voice. I'd go mad.

Maximum armour, Maxumim speed, cloak engaged are badass voices. so no i cant

DaftPunk
23-10-2012, 11:45 AM
They actually hired a guy who wrote Altered Carbon. But reading this spoiler I'm not sure it was a good idea.


What buggers me is why did they move the story to New York... Imagine fighting in London,then at the midsection of game,you move to some other country and fight there.

squirrel
23-10-2012, 11:48 AM
I thought it was reported by RPS months ago that Crytek intends to shift its focus to F2P, and Crysis obviously involves investment much more than a budget of F2P. So, future of Crysis seems rather doomed.

But for Crysis 3, I rather want it to be more like new Far Cry, in which you won't always be in battlefield to shoot on sight on everybody. You should be in some occasions encountering neutral / friendly NPC you can be interacting with by tools other than bullets and knifes and fists. But of course, we all know that's not in the Crytek's plan.

Finicky
23-10-2012, 11:51 AM
The artstyle and color scheme in crysis 2 was painfully bad, one of the least aestethically pleasing games I've played.
Since they seem to have continued with the same style in the next game I'm really not interested.

sonson
23-10-2012, 11:58 AM
I'm sure it will be very pretty and probably not bad

I really enjoyed Crysis up until the Aliens though, it was a very fun and creative FPS with some really good set pieces. The Aliens weren't even that bad per se, the bit where they attack you and other dudes was quite exciting, but the bit where you're inside the spaceship and everything turns to winter was more or less the definition of bland.

DaftPunk
23-10-2012, 12:09 PM
I'm sure it will be very pretty and probably not bad

I really enjoyed Crysis up until the Aliens though, it was a very fun and creative FPS with some really good set pieces. The Aliens weren't even that bad per se, the bit where they attack you and other dudes was quite exciting, but the bit where you're inside the spaceship and everything turns to winter was more or less the definition of bland.


Well that part was hour long,out of 12-13 hours,so its not that bad :D

Heliocentric
23-10-2012, 12:21 PM
first thing i do in every crysis game is turn off the suit voice. I'd go mad.

maximum voice

soldant
23-10-2012, 12:33 PM
Your fault you played games in stealth mod,game gives various options so use them.
I did. But stealth mode was easily the most useful of the lot. Also any sort of freedom basically went out the window once the aliens showed up... up until then though when you were attacking North Korean bases it was pretty good.

sonson
23-10-2012, 12:38 PM
Well that part was hour long,out of 12-13 hours,so its not that bad :D

It felt like about four though. The SkyVol mission was rubbish as well, and the boss battle was..well a boss battle, in which you could hardly even use your powers which made it fun in the first place.

sonson
23-10-2012, 12:43 PM
I did. But stealth mode was easily the most useful of the lot. Also any sort of freedom basically went out the window once the aliens showed up... up until then though when you were attacking North Korean bases it was pretty good.

The option of having the N Koreans speak Korean was good too. I spent a lot of time hanging around the piers, drowning people.

Was Warhead any good?

DaftPunk
23-10-2012, 12:46 PM
Warhead is basically the same stuff,only more "linear",or lets say more cinematic. It wasn't any way more linear then first one,ok maybe little bit xD

Sketch
23-10-2012, 12:51 PM
Warhead is probably my favourite it's open yet still nicely structured.

Mohorovicic
23-10-2012, 01:00 PM
Warhead is much more linear, has tons of pointless story in it that won't make much sense, and tries to "spice up the gameplay" with stuff like an escort mission in which the vehicle you're escorting drives ahead of you, or what is technically on-rails shooter.

Diesel-
23-10-2012, 01:10 PM
Psycho is best Crysis character ever. and hovercraft part was one of the best crysis experience. dat music

Sparkasaurusmex
23-10-2012, 01:31 PM
Expectation for Crysis 3?
Kind of fun manshoot for quarter to half a game, then boring alien shoot (hopefully with gravity) for the rest of the game.

The JG Man
23-10-2012, 02:03 PM
I always feel like I'm an odd-ball in liking the alien ship and the VTOL craft in 1. I also agreed 2; that which it lost was made up for by polished content anyhow, so while I wouldn't say Crysis 3 was a game I was looking forward to highly, but I'm sure I will pick it up at some point.

Namdrol
23-10-2012, 02:27 PM
I thought it was reported by RPS months ago that Crytek intends to shift its focus to F2P, and Crysis obviously involves investment much more than a budget of F2P. So, future of Crysis seems rather doomed.

But for Crysis 3, I rather want it to be more like new Far Cry, in which you won't always be in battlefield to shoot on sight on everybody. You should be in some occasions encountering neutral / friendly NPC you can be interacting with by tools other than bullets and knifes and fists. But of course, we all know that's not in the Crytek's plan.



Crysis is just IP. If Crytek is done with it, they'll just sell it some other company & they will shit out another market research driven game. There will be more Crysis games as long as the Crysis name sells.

I'd still play 3 though, if I could ditch the nannysuit with a Green Lantern mod cuz I love me some good bow and arrow action.

gundato
23-10-2012, 02:39 PM
I actually really liked Crysis 2, but my dream Crysis would be Warhead with the Crysis 2 suit and AI.

Also, please take mohry pauvich with a HUGE grain of salt. Here is a plot summary from someone who is not offended at a moral level by video games


It is a few years after Crysis 1. The alien invasion spread, even after nuking it. In the interim, the suits have begun to evolve due to their exposure to alien tech and a plague is spreading through New York. The company who makes the suits (can't remember their names) are providing security for New York as evil mercenaries. You are a marine sent to investigate what is going on, but get attacked by aliens as you land and die. Prophet, who is also dying due to a combination of the plague and his suit consuming him (implied to be what happened to Nomad and Psycho), gives you his suit. Unfortunately, Prophet was a wanted terrorist, so now you are being hunted by evil PMC while fighting aliens.

Lots of stuff happens, you find out that the suits are actually based on alien-tech and are synthesizing a cure for the plague (and that the head of the company basically knew everything would happen and has been playing a long-game to steal a body and use the suits to save the world). After a metric crapton of set pieces against aliens and PMCs (and aliens with PMCs on your side), your suit has synthesized a cure (sadly not head and shoulders) and you deliver it by being the 7-up guy that David Duchovney shoves into a sphincter. The effort basically kills you again, and Prophet (his mind had been living in the suit) takes over your corpse (and the suit) to set the stage for Crysis 3.

Not the best story in the world, but pretty good by FPS standards. And, more importantly, the gameplay is rather fun. The new interface really makes you feel like a super soldier, rather than a spec ops guy with a cloak.

DaftPunk
23-10-2012, 02:56 PM
Why Crysis 2 AI,i thought its worse then in first two games ?

Finicky
23-10-2012, 03:00 PM
I actually really liked Crysis 2, but my dream Crysis would be Warhead with the Crysis 2 suit and AI.


What am I reading? I thought EVERYONE (even people who liked crysis 2) agrees that crysis 2 has some of the most shamefully bad AI there is...


Troll status triple reinforced I suppose... there is just no other way.

gundato
23-10-2012, 03:05 PM
I dunno, maybe it helped that the environments were more linear and they were placed in positions that suited them better (rather than out in the open or near a paper-thin shack). They were capable of going after my previous known position and doing a metric crap ton of suppressing fire and lobbed explosives. Its possible they were worse (the Crysis 1 AI wasn't particularly genius either), but I had more fun with them in 2.

I guess I am just a troll for playing games and ignoring reviews and the like. There is just no other way :p

Outright Villainy
23-10-2012, 03:36 PM
I thought Crysis 2 was a nice fun rooty tooty point and shooty, and offered just enough gameplay approaches to stop it being too linear. It's a shame it's more limited than 1, but to me it felt more fun to play. So I'm semi-excited about this.

Yeah, I felt 1 had more options, but none of them felt all that satisfying. 2 felt like it had more purpose in its level design, rather than stick a generic base in a bland jungle design and call it a day. I thought 2 was flawed for sure, but I definitely enjoyed it more than 1.

DaftPunk
23-10-2012, 03:45 PM
Thanks for story explanation gundato,not bad at all.


Otherwise i like FEAR 1 story,quite epic and sick shit :D

Sketch
23-10-2012, 04:32 PM
One major point that Gundato semi covered but not quite:

Aliens had actually been under the surface of the major cities of the world for about 2 million years, and it was Hargreave who woke them accidentally.

gundato
23-10-2012, 04:43 PM
One major point that Gundato semi covered but not quite:

Aliens had actually been under the surface of the major cities of the world for about 2 million years, and it was Hargreave who woke them accidentally.
Well, that was part of Crysis 1 (outside of the last bit). So let's say that I assumed prior knowledge as opposed to completely forgot about that plot point :P

Mohorovicic
23-10-2012, 04:45 PM
Here is a plot summary from someone who is not offended at a moral level by video games

I... honestly don't think anything can offend me at a moral level, try something else.

Biggest offenses of Crysis 2 were spawning baddies(complete with magic lines), new aliens that were very uninteresting and very poorly executed plot. Not that plot in Crysis was anything other than "o noes! Aliens!" but at least it didn't try.

Check the book(Crysis: Legion) if you want to know exactly what I'm talking about. You could make a Deus Ex level story/game from that kind of premise, and all they could muster in Crysis 2 was save-the-world with five minute long expositions about stuff you already know. And even that feels like they ran out of budget.

The JG Man
23-10-2012, 04:52 PM
I did feel like the plot was the weakest thing of C2, apart from those giant walking mech...things. They can go to hell. It had a lot of neat ideas (the grey line that is the purpose of the suit itself) never really came to fruition, although it was certainly alluded to a fair bit. Overall, I felt like the game was a giant "Go there. Okay, you're there. No go there." I'm happy to waive that though considering the train station level and the final level. If C3 can build on that, whilst giving a bit more openness (although I thought there were plenty of routes in 2, it just needed to be a little wider) I think C3 could be really, really good.

DaftPunk
23-10-2012, 05:03 PM
I want back manual saving,lean and prone,then we can talk about playing C3.

Sketch
23-10-2012, 05:18 PM
Well, that was part of Crysis 1 (outside of the last bit). So let's say that I assumed prior knowledge as opposed to completely forgot about that plot point :P

Mm I think the fossil thing is established in 1, but it's developed a lot more in 2.

o0Slickman0o
30-10-2012, 05:25 AM
Looks a lot like Crysis 2 (obviously) which I for one do not like. I enjoyed the first game significantly more.

biz
30-10-2012, 09:49 AM
i expect far cry 3 to be way better than it

Antimensch
05-11-2012, 12:02 PM
i expect far cry 3 to be way better than it
This. But still, only for the graphics, I'll get myself a copy of C3 in the end. Sad but true, sometimes the graphic-whore in my heart comes through.

squirrel
05-11-2012, 01:04 PM
Actually only one thing: aerial vehicles

Aerial vehicle piloting in Crysis 1 is a disaster, so why dont work it out? Why simply drops it and that is?