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ianjones
06-11-2012, 06:14 AM
Hello all with crimbo finally getting closer amd closer i have my eyes on a new much needed gaming spec im planning to get away from my 6450. Ive come across this via shopper: http://www.palicomp.co.uk/gaming-pcs/intel-gaming-pcs/alpha-blade/prod_366.html
It looks a good spec for 1k any other reccomendations within this price range? Particularly if you have the machine yourself!

Sparkasaurusmex
06-11-2012, 04:01 PM
I just checked Newegg.com and you can put that machine together for around $1000 US. Of course on newegg you can mix and match and build a comparable machine for more like $700 US.

But anyway, I almost always buy my parts from Newegg. Get all the pieces and put it together to save.

lasikbear
06-11-2012, 04:04 PM
I would also recommend checking Amazon. They tend to offer the same deals as newegg and then usually have another bundle offer thats even cheaper. It takes some effort to find one with the exact (or close enough) two things you want, but its worth the extra effort.

ianjones
07-11-2012, 07:51 AM
thanks guys with newegg though do the prices include the tax and shipping to the UK?
Im not too clued up on putting a PC together just yet but i really wantto drop this old AMD card and my machine is about 4 years old now.

Sparkasaurusmex
07-11-2012, 03:27 PM
It's a perfect time to learn to build your own PC! There are video guides all over the internet and basically it just comes down to putting things where they fit :P
The hard part is buying everything that's compatible, but even that just takes a few minutes of research. Not sure on newegg's shipping. I prefer Newegg because I know they are good about replacing DOA parts. And if you order enough computer components you will inevitably eventually have some DOAs. I don't know about Amazon, but they might also be good about refunds/replacements.

ianjones
07-11-2012, 03:29 PM
yeh ive heard some horror stories about heatsinks not fitted properly or power supplys not suitable for cards!
Do you know if newegg offer warranties on parts?

Sparkasaurusmex
07-11-2012, 03:43 PM
Manufacturer only, I believe. I guess you're sort of out of luck with short lived components (besides manufacturer warranty) but for DOA's newegg is very nice.

ianjones
08-11-2012, 08:39 AM
thats sparkasaurusmex. Are there any UK companies that offer same as newegg apart from people like overclockers?

Sakkura
08-11-2012, 11:44 PM
Newegg does not ship internationally (http://help.newegg.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/124/session/L3RpbWUvMTM1MjQxODA5Ny9zaWQvTVBvZDRPYWw%3D). There's a Canadian Newegg and a Chinese one, everyone else is out of luck.

neema_t
09-11-2012, 05:51 PM
Scan, Aria and Amazon were who I used to build my PC (in the UK). For some reason Aria were cheaper on most things except the graphics card (which I got from Scan), case, PSU, SSD and generic as hell DVD drive (which I got from Amazon). Now, though, whenever I'm price comparisoning Scan comes out on top. I got my other graphics card (first was a GTX 580, second a 680) from them as well. And a hard drive for about 20 less than it was on Aria.

ianjones
12-11-2012, 10:51 AM
Thanks Neema, ive heard good things on Scan - any idea on ebuyer?

Hirmetrium
12-11-2012, 01:32 PM
I'd avoid ebuyer unless you have a good track record with City link delivery service - they are not always the cheapest, and I've found their customer support to be terrible ("Oh yes sir, we'll refund your failed delivery" - only to refund less than half. this was a scheduled day for a small premium that I had booked off work, had to travel a few towns over for it!).

Overclockers are solid, but have limited stock selection and sometimes have a good deal - they are pricey otherwise, and I've heard some pretty booming complaints on the internet (remember that you only ever hear the bad). That said, I've never had a problem with them myself and would recommend them.

Scan and Aria are both very solid shouts. I wouldn't bother with anybody outside the Scan/Aria/Overclockers ring, else your P&P will hit the roof (talking like 20 Saturday delivery for Overclockers). I normally build a cart on all the sites and see who comes out on top with P&P.

I don't trust amazon at all, because they are sending sensitive computer components internationally, and you always run the risk of mishaps with stuff like that (plus Royal Mail)

EDIT: This (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?6354-Buying-a-new-pc-recommended-retailers-shops) came up recently, granted he wanted a site to build it for him, but I stand by it (I was a bit more obvious in my ebuyer criticism there, but some friends have softened my opinion).

P.S. Crap, forgot about Novatech.co.uk. Friend recommended them, and while I've never used them their prices don't look bad at all.

Colonel J
12-11-2012, 06:41 PM
For my last PC build a year ago I got 80% of the components from ebuyer and the remainder from Overclockers where they were cheaper or ebuyer didn't have stock, both were fine and I'd use either again.

If you weren't in a hurry then ebuyer used to offer free delivery within 3-5 business days which was a useful saving, though I see that's changed and now they always charge. Funnily enough I've had most problems in the past with the DPD guys that Overclockers use and none at all with Citylink. YMMV depending where you live, clearly.

I can't speak for the RMA service of either as I haven't had to return anything.

Worth keeping an eye on the weekly offers at Overclockers which offer some good deals.

I found the guides at bit-tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/buyers-guide/2012/08/31/pc-hardware-buyer-s-guide-august-2012/1)to be very useful advice for putting together a best-buy gaming build. Last one was from August, which should all still be solid advice and prices may have dropped a bit from there.

Sakkura
12-11-2012, 07:24 PM
I found the guides at bit-tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/buyers-guide/2012/08/31/pc-hardware-buyer-s-guide-august-2012/1)to be very useful advice for putting together a best-buy gaming build. Last one was from August, which should all still be solid advice and prices may have dropped a bit from there.
Their advice looks slightly outdated (not their fault), and they seem to like the ASUS Maximus V Gene... which is a waste of money for most people.

neema_t
13-11-2012, 01:48 AM
I normally build a cart on all the sites and see who comes out on top with P&P.

I don't trust amazon at all, because they are sending sensitive computer components internationally, and you always run the risk of mishaps with stuff like that (plus Royal Mail)

1. What I did was go to Aria, Scan and Amazon, compared the prices on everything I wanted and then priced up various combinations. I managed to get the price down about 50 that way because the graphics card, an MSI GTX 580 Twin Frozr II, was that much cheaper on Scan than Aria that even with P&P it was still lower. I think that was the only part I got from Scan, initially anyway, everything else has come from them and their service is just excellent. In fact I don't even price compare with Aria any more, I probably should though.

2. I get what you're saying, in the end I only bought pretty basic parts from Amazon. The case I wanted was out of stock at Aria so I got that from them, I got the SSD, DVD drive and... That might've been it, so they were a) fairly robust parts, nothing as sensitive as the motherboard, CPU or graphics card and b) the sort of thing I could have either identified as fit for use or not pretty much straight away or RMA'd without much hassle. I definitely wouldn't recommend buying anything with more than 10 transistors from Amazon...


I've recently heard that eBuyer are crap. Ok, this is from just one friend's experience, but he bought a keyboard from them and they managed to send him two duds and one wrong model! That may not really be eBuyer's fault but you do have to wonder where they find their stock. And they did replace them quickly. It did mean he was sans keyboard for an entire week though.

ianjones
14-11-2012, 12:01 PM
i couldnt get all the components for the price of palicomps pc so i think im going to get it from there, saves me the hassle of building it but thanks for all your responses guys!

Nalano
14-11-2012, 06:51 PM
For me:

Prebuilt machines from CyberpowerPC.

Parts from Newegg and occasionally Tigerdirect.

ianjones
15-11-2012, 09:35 AM
Why Cyberpower Nalano? Would love some reccomendations!

ianjones
19-11-2012, 11:08 AM
I did look at cyberpower but their prices i just couldnt match against Palicomps. Any other gaming rig ideas?

Nalano
19-11-2012, 01:07 PM
Why Cyberpower Nalano? Would love some reccomendations!

Cuz I've used them and I don't have any issues with 'em.

There are other computer assembly companies - they all seem to be clustered in California - so shop around, I say.

ianjones
20-11-2012, 04:23 PM
Im in the UK so will look at these guys, would have probably gone to newegg if they where in the UK but prices dont include the tax, so im struggling to compete with the price, thinking of buying this week too! any other UK suggestions?

applecup
20-11-2012, 09:09 PM
scan do prebuilt computers as well, which you can tweak the specs on - check their 3xs systems pages

ianjones
21-11-2012, 10:04 AM
thanks applecup will do!

Vicious
22-11-2012, 10:02 AM
I've been building computers for friends and family since 99, my experiences are as follows:
Overclockers: Not particularly cheap, fast and efficient, but can be an absolute bitch if anything goes wrong (I'm fighting them to refund me 20 I had to spend sending a faulty part back. This is 20 on the back of a 1,000 order. I've spent over 6,000 with them and they're fighting tooth and nail to not meet their legal obligations to refund me any/all costs incurred in sending a defective product back). I won't be ever using them again.
Aria: Diabolically inept customer service. Will never use again.
Scan: Never had anything go wrong, can't comment.
Pixmania: Inept but well meaning customer service, you get the distinct idea that a different person answers every single e-mail to them - and that none of them speak English natively. Can (occasionally) be very cheap.
Ebuyer: Never used, heard a huge amount of bad stories though.
Amazon: Not always the cheapest, but by far the best service and support. If you ever have a problem, there will be no quibbles. Simply return it for a replacement or full refund.

ianjones
22-11-2012, 02:50 PM
Thanks Vicious, so your advice is - use scan? I think im going to buy via palicomp because i just cant match the parts on price so far and my lack of experience in building, think im going to get AC3!!

Rossi
22-11-2012, 03:29 PM
I bought a PC from PCSpecialist (big mistake) and then a few years later I bought a new one from CyberPower (slightly better).

To be honest, if you have a brain it's pretty difficult to mess up building a PC. I was impatient and got the above companies to build mine and in both cases I wish I hadn't. I'm better than that, I've been working with PCs for 20 years and I could probably build one blind folded if I tried.

When I ordered from PCSpecialist, to cut a long story short, the messed up my motherboard selection and put an inferior model in to that specified, this was close to christmas so I had to wait until new year before I could get it replaced. But this was not before the courier decided he couldnt find my place of work (where it was being delivered) and decided to put my new PC in the nearest skip. It was only a friendly janitor at the company of who the skipped belong to that spotted something odd, and decided to call me enquiring why a box with a computer insided it had been placed in their refuse area. I was fucking furious. Granted it was the courier that did this and not PCSpecialist staff, but they do have a duty of care until the item is signed and delivered to me. When I called and told them what had happend they basically couldnt give a crap all they cared about was that it had arrived. I asked for compensation but they refused. Then, after all this I inspected the PC to find that the wrong motherboard had been fitted. I had to send it back and then wait until new year for it to arrive. It then developed a fault with motherboard and wouldnt switch on properly. I gave up and bought a new motherboard and fitted it myself. I should of RMAd the board but instead in my fury I threw it across the room, leaving a dent in the wall and tiny bits of circuit board embedded in the plaster.

So, my first experiece with PCSpecialist was tarnished somewhat.

With Cyberpower (two years ago), service was fine, a bit slow perhaps but they didnt fit the correct graphics card (I ordered a 6970, the put in a 6790) and then half of the 8gb RAM would not register so I had to send it back to get a replacement card and have the RAM sorted.

Now I've upgraded to parts I know and trust. I will never go to a PC supplier again knowing I can build the PC myself with next to zero fuss.

ianjones
26-11-2012, 08:09 AM
i have heard some horror stories about pc specialist so im not keen to use them plus they are very expensive. i find cyberpowers website so confusing its one massive info machine! i have made the order now so will review my experience with Palicomp but thanks for the feedback guys its massively appreciated - i will probably go to scan for upgrades!

Icarium82
27-11-2012, 11:20 PM
I used Cyberpower, think they are based in Newcastle or nearby in 2008 to build the system Im using right now. Not the cheapest but was hassle free. Over the years have changed the graphics cards and OS and added HDD's.

Getting to the point now where need a new mobo,cpu,ram. currently its an Asus striker extreme with a q6600 quadcore with 4 gig of ddr 2.

For pure convenience I will buy from Amazon, they quite often have bundles of the aforementioned components and the price is usually fairly good.

ianjones
03-12-2012, 10:45 AM
yeh, i found cyberpowers website way too over confusing for what i wanted. got my new pc now, its awesomely fast! i will look at scan for upgrades :) :) :)

y2rich
03-12-2012, 12:46 PM
Has anyone used Scans finance service? Going to self build from there but will need help on the money front. They as evil as most finance companies or worse?

ianjones
05-12-2012, 01:26 PM
y2rich - it all falls down to the agency, most of them use equifax (cause its cheaper than experian or callcredit) so if in doubt get a credit report from equifax!

Im a bit of a credit geek from learning from doing!

Rossi
05-12-2012, 04:09 PM
I've bought plenty of items on finance, I tend to use companies that use MoneyWay or V12Finance as in both cases they do the credit checks online and there is nothing to post/sign.

ianjones
05-12-2012, 04:21 PM
I've bought plenty of items on finance, I tend to use companies that use MoneyWay or V12Finance as in both cases they do the credit checks online and there is nothing to post/sign.

Yeh but they still have to use callcredit, experian or equifax if they are providing finance, they are the only 3 credit bodies in the UK.

Rossi
05-12-2012, 04:40 PM
I know. I was just mentioning the easy application process.