Wow. Someone posted S4League. What da fuq.
Wow. Someone posted S4League. What da fuq.
I've been pretty scant with my upvotes - only for games I consider to be something people on Steam might actually be missing
That's Qrth-Phyl (because the developer is awesome), Immortal Defense, Dino Run SE (REALLY!), DRM (another 'because the developer is awesome' choice), Racing Squirrels (just for the sheer brio of it) and Project Giana (because I was testing something and you can't unrate things once you've rated em!)
Game's I'm looking to appear on there would be SpellCaster 1&2, Escape Goat and all the Radian titles - my guess is they'll appear soon and you should vote for them all.
It's looking like right now, 1% is around 1000. I'm going off of one of the games had 800 favorites, so upvotes would theoretically be anywhere from 150 to 200% of that.
Cast my first vote for Kinetic Void (Freelancer-like space sim utilizing procedural generation; successful Kickstarter).
And, uh, Wizardry 8. That can't be legit. Surely it would just come to Steam through regular channels (if it weren't out in limbo land).
Browsing the selection* I am strongly reminded of browsing the computer fairs of my youth, what with all the awesome box art attached to potentially extremely shonky games.
*browsing, by the way is a nightmare, how are they ordered? Why can't I sort by name or have a list view and aaaaaaaaargh
In any event though, while this is probably a good thing for getting other games exposure (ignoring the blatant abuse, I mean suggesting Dungeon Keeper? It's on GOG!), it's clear that Valve are trying to corner every... um, corner of the gaming market with their distribution platform. I guess it'll only fuel the 'No Steam, no sale!" chanting, which is unfortunate.
Seems like it's impossible to actually go through the list because it randomizes/shuffles as you go through. Up voted Project Zomboid and Towns, couldn't really be bothered slogging through the rest though.
Am I alone who sees a dearth of strategy game? Filtering to "strategy", you barely get three pages and half of them seem to be miscategorized (platformers? top-down RPGs?) or TDs.
Just for the record, my votes up
La Mulana - Because it looks polished. I wanted it on Wii years ago but it never materialized.
Mecho Wars: Desert Ashes - Because the first Mecho Wars was a bargain bin title (bought mine for $1 on GamersGate) that captured a lot of what was good about Advance Wars on GBA and NDS.
Tales of Illyria - Being advertised as an RPG medieval take on Oregon Trail. Right on, ok.
Children of Liberty - 2.5D stealth platformer with animations evocative of Aladdin on Sega Genesis / Mega Drive.
Saturday Morning RPG - Amusing enough concept. Hope that works in execution.
Project Giana - Can't get enough platformers, no sirreebob
WazHack - side scrolling roguelike with amusing bits. Played some on Android. Had a lot of fun with poisoned water.
My vote down:
DLC Quest - had potential, but turned out as a limp, short experience. Had it from Indie Royale. Game has no depth. A few joyful moments at the start and precious nothing else. Might as well sell us 'You Have to Burn the Rope."
Of course there's going to be a load of crap. Every man and his dog (or 13 year old kid and Game Maker) will be submitting their stuff.
Re: The Fall(en)
There's a time and place for brief art games on any topic. Steam ain't one of them.
Steam Greenlight: Come sift through our garbage.
Sorry guys. Editing second image for clarification. I was not talking about the specific game. I was talking about the use of frames...
So, yeah, I'm doing this. (Gratuitous link).
I'm not even sure why as it doesn't bother me if I'm on Steam or not as I'm not exactly in this to make money. However, I guess part of me thought that if nothing else, it's worth trying just to see what does and does not work about Greenlight for me. If I can get on Steam at the end of it, that's even better but I'm not going to cry if it doesn't happen. I do OK as is.
And erm, yeah. Thoughts from the other end.
Submissions are nice. They're quick, easy and fairly undemanding. Formatting is a pain in the tits though. Valve also strip links out so it does make punting traffic around elsewhere more difficult. As there's no ModDB style news/updates segment for you to use, keeping a running commentary is messy and there's no reasonable way to link to an external site to do it there. Awkward.
I'm still not sure what purpose thumbs down actually serve. Surely if you don't want a game on Steam, the easiest way is to ignore it and it let it die of its own accord? But I dunno, being downrated doesn't bother me so much but it seems like a negative step where one isn't actually needed. Also having a thumbs down on collections seems well, why do that?
The Steam Community is very much what you make of it. It's dead, dead easy to pick out and point at the worst examples because it's Spufageddon but that's not fair. There's a lot of very enthusiastic and overall very nice people on there. They're not all mental loonbuckets who want CODBLOPS4000 on there, just that the discussions tab is obviously kind of a draw for those sort of people. That's easy to ignore though, just don't open the discussion tab.
Comment moderation is good! Obviously it's open to massive abuse from page owners but when within 30 seconds there's people dropping link spam having a quick and clean way to remove that is good. Also, I don't see why anyone should tolerate openly abusive comments. That said, if you delete a comment just because it's negative, you're probably a dick.
The amount needed to automatically shift into pending is obscenely high for most indies I'd imagine. I've got what I'd consider to be a reasonable profile and a fair few votes for the tiny niche games that I make and I've got no chance of making that number I don't think. But we'll see when I release in a few weeks how that differs. Having somewhere you can point to when people say "will these games be on Steam?" and you can go "well, if you vote for them, maybe..." can't not be handy but yeah, large numbers. Very large.
I'm still not sure how I feel about turning submissions into Valve's Got Talent despite all this. It being the sole route is still something I'm not entirely comfortable with but it's there now and the other route is closed so... but it does have people thinking "fuck it, you know, I will throw that out there" and I don't see that as a bad thing. Maybe throwing the game out there will bottle the lightning for a moment for the right game at the right time and that wouldn't or couldn't happen elsewhere?
Discovery is ridiculously shit. Given storefront wise, Steam does so well at this, I'm not sure how they've managed to make a complete munt of it on the community side. Sorting is guff, the shuffling makes it impossible to browse and sorting by rated/unrated very quickly becomes unmanageable. I'm trying to maintain a list of other projects I like and would recommend and that's getting tough. I can't imagine how tits up it is for a casual browse.
So overall, mainly positive with a cloudy outlook.