Computers are a lot faster now, where you can just have shit running in the background and barely making a dent in your memory or broadband connection while they do what they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by unruly
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Computers are a lot faster now, where you can just have shit running in the background and barely making a dent in your memory or broadband connection while they do what they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by unruly
Given Microsoft's half-assed managing of GFWL, I'm surprised that it hasn't already happened. Honestly, the only thing keeping it alive is, for lack of a better way of stating it, laziness on the side of developers when it comes to their PC ports. It's been proven time and time again to be a terrible, and hated, piece of software, but a handful of them keep insisting on using it because it means they can use the network framework that's already in place for xbox versions of games. I mean, it's apparent that Microsoft doesn't really care about the service, or else they would actually work on improving it rather than leaving it to flounder the way that it has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorzan
From a quick glance at the forums, people are either working on or have working a replacement master server, which you can get around with a quick patch or by editing your hosts file to point at the new one.Quote:
Originally Posted by unruly
That generally happens with many older games.Quote:
Originally Posted by deano2099
Hell, XMP (the multiplayer for Unreal 2) had fan-supported master servers almost instantly after the (many) times the official one was killed.
And with games like Tribes 2 getting hacked to use alternative master servers, I honestly don't think this will be a problem for any game that is actually "still played".
anytime a community moves, not everyone makes that transition
this might effectively kill stuff like Rise of Nations and Civilization 4 for good
these aren't some shooters with sequels and clones that do it better... these are 2 strategy games that will probably never see anything similar for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if they stayed at the top of their genres for the next 10 or 20 years.
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Originally Posted by biz
Never see anything similar to Civ4 for a long time?
Civ 5? It changed a few things, but has the same spirit
Any other 4x game? Civ4 was basically a straight evolution of Civ3 which was a straight evolution of Civ2. And pretty much every 4x game that wasn't based on MoO was based on Civ 2 and 3.
civ4 is unique in that it's the only 4X game that was actually designed for multiplayer. it wasn't tacked on after the fact
financially, they consider it a mistake
civ 5's multiplayer doesn't even work
civ is basically the only game with a large enough community for multiplayer to even work
and even civ's developers don't consider multiplayer worthwhile because only a fraction of their player base cares about it. therefore it's highly unlikely that there will be anything similar in the foreseeable future
it isn't a stretch to say that outside of board/card games, civ 4 is the only multiplayer strategy game around
some RTS/FPS games do have strategic elements, but there's always some component that has nothing to do with strategy which must be mastered
The Total War series disagrees with your statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by biz
I dispute this. But then 4X definitions are almost as disputed as rpg.Quote:
Originally Posted by biz
Sword of the stars, AI War and Colonisation disagree.
Pretty much. LOTS of 4x games have been designed with multiplayer in mind
The thing is: A 4x game can take a LONG time to play. That is why "Play by Email" and "Play by Post" are so popular.
It seems like the most perfect genre for a play by facebook game. I haven't heard of any good play by facebook 4x, but I'm don't follow the genre that closely, just pick it up here and there.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundato
I vaguely recall hearing about something like that a while back and a quick google and this https://www.facebook.com/civworld suggests it might be real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Internet
I'll still stick to play by email/dropbox though. Just more "fun" that way.