Saying GoG is DRM Free although true is moot. They're DRM free because more of the games they sell are either from a time before DRM or are indie and the indie devs are happy to allow their games be DRM free.
But if you want some quick and tasty food (debatable I guess) you can go to either McDonalds or KFC. Despite them being different you end up with more or less the same thing. It's not the same with Steam or GoG, some experiences are exclusive to them.
They are competitors in the video game retail sector, they don't need to sell the same games to be so. Everyone move on.
But people looking for 'Good old Games' can't find them on Steam. They exist in the same market and in some respects they are competitive, but I wouldn't say directly.
Any trading standards body would disagree and as I thought the argument was about Steam having some evil monopoly... Which of course, ignoring GoG, they don't. You're welcome to go buy a Playstation, iPhone, Xbox etc.
Your analogy isn't accurate and doesn't reflect what I was saying. It might have been better to compare KFC to a small gourmet pizza shop. Yes, they both sell food and are broadly competitors, but they're catering to different markets (OM NOM NOM CHICKEN ROCKS vs Gourmet makes it sound sophisticated) so they're not directly competing.
Soldant explained it better than me.
At the same time, if Steam goes south, there's plenty of opportunities for other companies to provide the same service. The reason why it hasn't happened so far is that Steam a) hasn't gone south and b) no one is even remotely close to providing that kind of quality service both to the end customers and the product suppliers.
Pretty much. If Steam suddenly becomes a bad thing, the void will be filled. As it stands, competitors are choosing to offer similar services, not the same service.
Using the fast food example: Steam is Taco Bell (I like Taco Hell). Most of their food is agreeable, and they have a few standout items (dorito tacos!). GoG is Del Taco. They have a MUCH smaller menu, but it is also of much higher quality. Both sell food. Hell, both sell "mexican" food. And both will probably send you to the toilet and make you wish you had never eaten there. But they target different aspects of the "mexican" food service industry.
Maybe they have selective vision?
It's really not as easy to say "Oh, I'm just not going to use steam, I'm going to use this instead". Ok, you can do it, but then all those games you want that publishers keep making Steamworks games, say goodbye to legal copies of those. Which is something a lot of you seem to be overlooking.
I'm frankly baffled as to how the Steam limiting choice/monopoly/whatever argument happened again out of this story. If anything Valve are expanding choice to consumers by allowing them to play games on TVs as well... Again not aimed at you directly but the general direction of the thread.
That wasn't actually aimed at you and was a general remark, nor was what I said a defence of Valve.Quote:
Seriously guys, are any of you actually reading my posts? Specifically the parts where I consistently deny that Valve are evil or have an actual monopoly? Or are you just going "What, Soldant raised an issue about the irony of GabeN pushing for Steam control when he bitched about MS and Win8's store? MAXIMUM ARMOUR ACTIVATED - TO VALVE'S DEFENCE!"
Though as I said above this isn't an increase in Steam's control of anything. So the whole argument has started over nothing.
EDIT: Also the numerous reasons why this isn't like Win8 closing up at all. Not that they are ever likely to. But the relevance to a big screen box is tiny.