Would you rather he used polite terms but hated people in other ways? :)
Kids and their obsession with the meanings of words eh?
Until I read into this thread I had no idea that the old floating head man who loved space was anything other than the old floating head man who loved space. So while he might of had some views that some people didn't like, it doesn't sound like he ever went out of his way to inflict them on other people.
Attributing the fact that we no longer use such terms to 'right-on people' read a little too much like PC-Gone-Mad and I was reacting to that.
He didn't go out of his way per se, but it did use opportunities to when talking about Europe to Radio times to unleash this gem:
While I understand his hatred stems from his fiance being killed, and I'm not in any way saying he should 'get over it' his unflexing position on Germans is pretty deplorable.Quote:
The only good Kraut is a dead Kraut.
I feel the same way about chavs. My dad hates gays. And the overweight. And... actually, he just hates everyone. Most of us have an offensive view on something, but when you gloss over someone's life and define it by a single view (which Sir Patrick never even seemed to make an effort to promote) and celebrate their death, well, then you are a giant self-righteous asshat whose list of heroes only include Mother Theresa and Santa Claus.
But according to Mother Theresa, abortion is one of the reasons there isn't world peace. I'm kidding (she did think that) but I doubt anyone would consider her a bad person. Ever, really.
Also, I'd like to point out in case it's not clear that even though I think some of Moore's stances of things are deplorable, I in no way celebrate his death.
Yeah I know. I'm taking another shot at Cooper's posts. Because they were so bad, they deserve to be told off twice.
WoundedBum beat me to it, but as you say Drake, you can make anyone out to be a bit of a monster.
I suggest gents we do the better thing and mark this one down to poor judgement, and get back to arguing/discussing games. In truth the whole things left a rather bad taste in my mouth and frankly I'd say everything that needs to be said on the issue has been said.
The late, great Christopher Hitchens despised her and I tend to agree with his position (he did write an ENTIRE book on the topic!!) - that she, in effect, rejoiced at the suffering as if it were intended
That and the fact Catholicism is inherently fucking stupid anyway - of course...
There's a case of someone ACTIVELY promoting their agenda y'see
"Oh but she helps people"
"Ah but she arguably keeps people miserable to promote her beliefs"
As I wrote it I knew someone would disagree of course, but I have nothing more to add.
There's a few more if you search around. Even the guardian doesn't put the boot in on him.
Fundamentally he was known as an astronomer and a bit of an eccentric character. Really to get an idea of him though you need to see him in action: -