This being RPS, I'd have suggested "Top 10 RPGs," but then I realized that a) it would be trollbait, and b) the result wouldn't be all that different from the list we have here.
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This being RPS, I'd have suggested "Top 10 RPGs," but then I realized that a) it would be trollbait, and b) the result wouldn't be all that different from the list we have here.
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Top 10 "that's not a real crpg" games.
That's why I jumped at FPS, I didn't want to spend all day defining RPG!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalano
Technically, we argued FPSs too. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lambchops
Dude, people suggested Deus Ex, Portal, Mirror's Edge and Thief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lambchops
FPS is a far broader church than you may suspect.
I think its Ayn Rand stuff resonates more with US players Vs europeans, plus the game I'd say is more loved by critics because it had a 'theme' to it than anything else. What the press gets behind isn't always what the public does. Looking at this months cover of EDGE magazine is enough to tell you that tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Internet;248505I
Cool, let's do this. If someone makes the thread, make a "no rpg definition rule." It's worth pointing out that if a thread builds critical mass, the difference in definitions will be marginalized. Players votes define the genre, and if someone makes a convincing argument, people will edit their choices and the definition will evolve.
Top Ten First Person Shooters - needs to be first person, have guns, and lots of shooting:
Metro 2033
Unreal Tournament 2004
Unreal Tournament
Jedi Knight 2 (the shooter bits were surprisingly decent outside of lightsaber combat)
Alien Versus Predator 2
Bioshock
Star Wars Battlefront II
Red Faction Guerilla
Painkiller
Stalker
My Top 10:
Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-41 (also Darkest Hour)
IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 (original game was 2001 but this uber IL-2 version came out in 2006)
Company of Heroes
DOTA 2
Starcraft 2
Dragon Age: Origins
Mass Effect 2 (with recognition of the fact that the first had a better main plot and resolution)
Mount and Blade: Warband
TOME4: Tales of Maj'Eyal
Command Ops: Battles from the Bulge
Honorable mentions to Portal and Torchlight 2 and Bastion.
I feel like Dark Souls should be on the list too because I've watched a lot of Let's Plays of it and it looks like just the kind of thing up my alley but unfortunately my PC can't handle it so it'll have to wait :(.
Doing this list made me realize how much most of the games I continue to play are from pre-2006. Not sure what that says hah.
I'm kind of shocked to see New Vegas charting so high... But then again I'm one of those grumpy old Fallout nerds that's still butthurt because of what "they" did to one of my favorite FPG franchises. Also, AP is on the list? Really? RPS really likes their RPGs mediocre and riddled with bugs and broken mechanics :P
I jest... (not really)
Hey folks. In case you've not noticed I've started a separate thread for the FPS discussion so if you've made a list here then please copy and paste it there so I can tally it up. Cheers
Thread here - http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/foru...l-time-edition
Some people value something more in games than polish. AP didn't have any really game breaking bugs and mechanics were adequate. Instead it delivered splendidly in characters, world, conversation and stabbing people in the neck.Quote:
Originally Posted by ado
Weird that you said fallout was one of your fav franchise. F1 and F2 were broken for years. It took almost a decade of modders work to make the games complete and bug free. You shouldn't hold brokenness against AP then
Still are in some ways. A big chunk of the skills are useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukasz
And the trunk of my car is still missing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake Sigar
Well I don't really consider either game to be broken (both have some really wonky mechanics for sure), but you do have a point. There is a shitload of nostalgia for me when it comes to the original two Fallout games, and I really doubt that I'd be as forgiving of them if there was not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukasz
But yea I'm one of those guys who takes gameplay over story any day of the week when it comes to games, so that's why I kind of sneer at most Obsidian games when it comes to things like this - including AP and NV XD
The salesman said they come out of the factory like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tikey
I need to change my list to include Batman AA and/or AC. Please take this into account with the collation. Thankyou.
That is nonsense, really. Fallout 1 and 2 were perfectly playable, perfectly complete games on release. They did not need the work of modders to make them work or complete. Any bugs or missing content/features of the Fallout games were not a big deal at the time of release. Unlike AP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukasz
Are we talking about the same Fallout 2? The one that originally had multiple ways to corrupt your savegame and a ton of broken features/quests? The one that has an unofficial patch which fixes over 800 bugs? I suppose it's perfectly playable in the sense that you can actually complete it and it's not quite as terribly buggy as Troika's games tend to be, but that's setting the bar rather low.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unaco
I didn't need an unofficial patch to stop it from crashing every two hours, *cough*.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiddlesticks
OK, I'll grant Fallout2 had some bug issues at release. But they were largely fixed by the official patch, shortly after release. It didn't need a decade of work by modders to be a playable and enjoyable game.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiddlesticks
Instead Troika Games had the nerve to go bankrupt, the inconsiderate bastards. Tim Cain should be dragged to your living room in chains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unaco