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    I would say I probably read that sentence...

    I would say I probably read that sentence different than you. I know her disclaimer. I read that sentence as saying she never asked for that type of portrayal to be eliminated from videogames.

    I...
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/201...

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2014/09/19/geeks-have-become-their-own-worst-enemies/?hpid=z3

    Here we go. Another addition to the gamers are dead discussion, but broader and it...
  3. Possible too that he has made some new friends in...

    Possible too that he has made some new friends in the business who focus more on certain issues and thus they became more important too him in that it is the focus of his colleagues' discussions....
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    The general Autumn sale, though smaller than the...

    The general Autumn sale, though smaller than the winter or summer sale, is usually at the beginning of the U.S. Christmas shopping season (after Thanksgiving). They have occasionally done one around...
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    I wanted to post this example for people who were...

    I wanted to post this example for people who were skeptical about data presentation. This article is actually very similar to what I expect to see in upcoming Sarkeesian videos. I wonder how well she...
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    I don't think it is quite fair to always...

    I don't think it is quite fair to always characterize it that way. The complaint from some more rational parties would be that radical feminists are not about the patriarchy at all, but forwarding...
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    Just because it isn't functioning, doesn't mean...

    Just because it isn't functioning, doesn't mean it isn't a part of the experience.

    Youtube comments have helped me in the past to find out crucial bits of context about videos. That is part of...
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    At my current pace, I am good for games until I...

    At my current pace, I am good for games until I retire and that is over three decades from now. Other than multiplayer games, I am staying far away from the shining lights of new...
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    Essentially we agree then. My request for data is...

    Essentially we agree then. My request for data is in the context of trying to figure out that audience. Those who still believe it must be useful as a video and somehow informing for game designers...
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    I am pretty sure you just went full blown...

    I am pretty sure you just went full blown Cartesian there. I don't have the time nor the inclination to construct the proper Hume level response.

    Can't we agree that the framework established...
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    Okay then, how does Sarkeesian's use of Ms....

    Okay then, how does Sarkeesian's use of Ms. Pacman work for you with these statements then?

    Our context provided is all video games. You cannot make the proportion larger just by eliminating...
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    Ms. PacMan leads off a Sarkeesian video. ...

    Ms. PacMan leads off a Sarkeesian video.

    Rating K+A

    http://www.amazon.com/Ms-Pac-Man-Nintendo-Super/dp/B00002SWCO


    I am just responding to her here, I didn't make it up for the sake of my...
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    Great link. I think you are focused too much...

    Great link.

    I think you are focused too much on the denier/believer distinction in all of this disucssion.

    That link you supplied gives a concrete analysis looking at one game in particular....
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    Yes, Football Manager is a game, it is counted....

    Yes, Football Manager is a game, it is counted. If something is pervasive in video games, it is pervasive in video games. That is not logically difficult. If she qualified it as only being pervasive...
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    Did you not read any of what I posted? Here is...

    Did you not read any of what I posted?

    Here is an example of numbers that could be found: (Let's be fair and simply say games = games grossing over $1 million in the last 10 years).

    Games...
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    Sarkeesian stated it thusly Again, this is...

    Sarkeesian stated it thusly



    Again, this is about what thesis is being proposed. If the thesis is:

    1. The world uses women as backdrops and this is bad.

    Then the video games replicating...
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    People debating the meaning of "gamer" totally...

    People debating the meaning of "gamer" totally miss the point of her article. It strikes me that all Alexander wants to establish is that she isn't writing for that low level of person...
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    I'm going to take these two together

    I'm going to take these two together
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    Wait, wasn't that the plot to Mass Effect 3? ...

    Wait, wasn't that the plot to Mass Effect 3?

    Mordin Solus was my Sancho Panza, Miranda was my Dulcinea (ever faithful I was, though I had no idea where she went), and the Reapers were clearly...
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    Sarkeesian makes this point at the beginning of...

    Sarkeesian makes this point at the beginning of her part 1, so it isn't exactly fair to throw it out there even as a partial refutation of the videos.

    The question left is that if she recognizes...
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    People have been doing that ... along with people...

    People have been doing that ... along with people being proud of themselves for using words to identify logical fallacies without actually making the argument. Typically a logical fallacy means that,...
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    My implication was that John Walker had trouble...

    My implication was that John Walker had trouble trying to come to terms with identifying tropes in a game. He consulted with someone who knew feminism scholarship and then decided that the context...
  23. Pretty sure the outside world lumps all these...

    Pretty sure the outside world lumps all these attacks in with the same internet dregs.

    When it came to the Ferguson, Missouri stuff local news carried the doxxing of the police chief and DDOS on...
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    Uh oh. To avoid that question you implied. ...

    Uh oh.

    To avoid that question you implied.

    Who does herald zeitgeist for gaming? I am hoping not any of these gaming journo celebrities in recent news. Designers like Will Wright? Miyamoto?...
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    Probably worth it to go look at an open world...

    Probably worth it to go look at an open world crime game that received this type of criticism:

    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/14/saints-row-the-third-review/



    If that is the goal of...
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