Really? If you take out the online stuff, what exactly does the new SimCity do that SimCity 4 doesn't do as well or better? Other than pretties.Originally Posted by Atrophy
Really? If you take out the online stuff, what exactly does the new SimCity do that SimCity 4 doesn't do as well or better? Other than pretties.
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You could argue against every game every with that!
One thing I don't get in this whole thing is people saying EA can't/won't fix it. I don't remember a broken game from EA. Sure there was some games that weren't very good, but they do publisher a lot of games. Syndicate as an ok game, not blooming great but ok. It might have better as a TBS, but is there anyone left that knows how to make them? DA2, I enjoyed, it was DA origins but it was a fun game, suffered from sequalitis though. ME3 was great, multiplayer was stellar. I love my yearly Fifa games on the toybox. I guess the updates could be yearly DLC, but the amount of play I get out of it in the year is worth it.
I missed the point where hating EA became a thing, can anyone fill me in? I remember some of it from the late 90s
They bought out and "killed" a few development studios people really liked. And the guys who would later found Infinity Ward screamed and called them the devil (until they would later scream and call Activision the devil :p).
Also, EA has a history of catering to non-core gamer demographics (casual gamers and sports fans) which angers many of the more "pure" gamers.
What people generally forget is that the companies EA killed: By and large, those genres also "died out" as we knew them, so it is definitely a bit more murky than just "EA bought and killed them". But, gotta rage against that proverbial machine and what nots.
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I have no idea. :) I chose not to buy the game. However, I have read quite a few reviews and such that praised the actual gameplay. Before this disaster even RPS was rather pleased with how it was shaping up. From what I can tell it is also simulated far more thoroughly than SimCity 4 and it seems to have added a few conveniences and helpful additions. These are all things that I have heard, but none of that matters. Wether it is an improved game of not doesn't change the fact that all these people worked very hard for a very long time to make a game only to see it slammed not because of errors they made (which could be addressed and potentially fixed), but because their publisher had them make a final crippling addition to their game. I'm sure it Isn't as cut and dry as I make it sound, but that is what makes me feel for Maxis, they made a toy and all everyone cares about is the box it came in.
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I'm guessing the new game doesn't have the Gods awful modding community of SC4. Though, it is early days still.
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But isn't a Gods awful modding community still strictly better than no modding community at all?
Their tribalism, charging for mods, treatment of outsiders/newcomers, treatment of those who attempt to buck their rules, treatment of those who try to criticise them, terrible organisation, lack of a coherent system. Pretty terrible scene, from my experience. Some good mods... but trying to download them was like masturbation with a cheese grater... mildly amusing, yet mostly painful.
I dunno... the SC4 community is/was that bad.
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Those weren't really genres to begin with, they were games on their own. Dungeon Keeper is a prime example. The problem is that EA looked at the popularity, then tried to get them to mass produce the crap, then get numbers similar to the big generic "genre" games. FPS etc.
So EA bought companies that made innovative and often unique games, or at least tried, then tried to turn them into mass producing "hit-making" machines. And then they failed.
Charging for mods?
I dunno what community you're thinking of, but I didn't have to pay for anything ever, and SimCity's pretty much been constantly installed on my machine for a decade.
When's Will Wright going to start his new studio already?
Only problem with Simcity4 modders is that there's a crapton of dependencies and you need to register to a lot of different websites to get them all. Which I didn't bother with.
http://www.simtropolis.com/stexcollections
Is there a link for a non-physical, free copy of these collections? Or a list of what these "very best Buildings, Lots, Maps and other Goodies" are, and their download links? I can't seem to find one. I'll grant, you don't have to pay, you could find all the individual downloads... maybe, if you're lucky, and there's no broken links etc., and you can register for the 3 or 4 different places, and you manage to get all the dependencies, and all the required files, and you have the spare 48 hours it would take to find, download and install them all. All of which is somewhat unlikely.
Then, like with CAMPACK v2 (all the lots and dependencies etc. included, in a nice, convenient single download and installer), if someone did make a convenient, nice single download and installer, they'd get lynched by the community.
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When's Will Wright's kickstarter coming already? I would give him 100 doll hairs to have a fully realized version of Spore. Or hell, to have Spore turned into four episodic games that take data from the previous ones.
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Yeah, it is definitely best looking at on a case by case basis.
EA does/did generally try to make games more accessible (which makes sense, they have to turn a profit) which turned off the core fans while still not being accessible enough for the "general" gamers. But, at the same time, it is arguable if that group of "core fans" was large enough to sustain the series (as you will inevitably lose people over time without innovation).
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