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Be rude and kick
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Thread: Are you kind to noobs?
16-08-2011, 05:15 PM #41
you know what, all my fun of LOTRO was with PUGs so sometimes they aren't terrible and you meet some nice people that way which you form relationships and guilds with.
16-08-2011, 05:19 PM #42
I put down "educate them" simply because I rarely play any MP games without people that I know. So, generally, if I am playing with some newbs, they are my friends and I'll educate them. Or I'm the newb and they'll educate me. I played LoL for a little while, and I felt like I was sharing the internet with depraved sadists. Wasn't really my thing...
16-08-2011, 06:19 PM #43
It is so awful to play a game where people have no patience for sub-optimal play. How do you expect to foster a large enough community that the game lasts for more than a few months?
I played Lord of the Rings Online for a while, and I thought that the community was really great. No one insulted me for asking questions, the player economy was both logical and lively, and it was generally painless to interact with people. I never saw anyone acting insane in the starter areas, but I did see higher level players occasionally hanging out in low level zones. I remember coming across a party of dwarves who were just chatting while their bard played some tunes, and another time I saw a party of elves atop their mounts, their high-end gear glimmering and their cloaks flowing in the breeze. Never played another game where I could so easily spot and admire with envy a more powerful player, and where said players weren't huge jerkasses for no particular reason.
16-08-2011, 07:14 PM #44
And it's awful to waste an hour of your time confirming suspicions you had in the first five minutes because you were too polite to kick or quit. Willingness to learn is one thing, and I'm pretty sure we're all patient when it comes to that, but a consistent river of BAD does a lot to make one bitter about the general public.
16-08-2011, 07:24 PM #45
Totally depends on the game, for example, if it were Project Reality, I'd totally be up for educating them so long as they listen and take some of it in, as that was the position I was in when i first started playing, I was a total newb, but one or two rounds of playing and chatting with my squad made the game so much fun.
However, if it is a simple game in comparison, say, Bad company 2, i Don't really understand how people can really be "newbs"... I mean, apart from learning the uses of destruction/spotting... there isn't really anything else to learn if you have played just about any FPS ever...
And that goes for all genres with me pretty much, if i think the game requires some learning to play, I'm happy to teach.
16-08-2011, 07:27 PM #46
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Noob doesn't actually usually equal Tei's explanation, although it should. Noob is rarely used correctly like that, it's usually used by dickheads who are angry that someone else hasn't played the game as much as they have. But, I would say both definitions stand.
16-08-2011, 07:30 PM #47
16-08-2011, 07:39 PM #48
16-08-2011, 08:26 PM #49
Given I assume this question is addressing newbies, new players who are willing and able to take advice and up their skill, then, yes, I'll help when I can.
I'll often suggest something to low-level players in Frozen Synapse if they are clearly not using a tactic which is making my turns really easy.
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16-08-2011, 08:42 PM #50
17-08-2011, 07:45 AM #51
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I tend to just kick noobs. If there's one thing I detest, it's unwillingness to learn and inability to see one's own faults.
Now, newbies on the other hand. I've rarely had bad experiences teaching them, so I'll gladly explain unintuitive gameplay elements or anything else you can't read up on with a quick search. I tend to be rather verbose too and have often helped people into a game over the span of days or weeks.
By the way, I tend to be irritated when people call every newbie a noob. Dismissing every new person so quickly is pretty rude.
(Yes, I know that nowadays people don't care about differentiated words and gladly use lag/fps or newbie/noob whenever it's most inappropriate. Doesn't mean I have to do it though.)
Last edited by Batolemaeus; 17-08-2011 at 07:49 AM.
17-08-2011, 10:40 AM #52
It can be very frustrating to play a game like TF2 in a situation where a lot of your team is significantly worse than the enemy team, because you often end up spawn-camped and unable to enjoy the game. It's not too bad when the teams get scrambled, but some people are strangely resistant to team scrambling (probably they either enjoy the mindless slaughter or they're all in a clan and want to play together). In a situation like that I'll usually just quit and find another server, I'm not interested in trying to teach people how to play.
17-08-2011, 12:33 PM #53
17-08-2011, 01:02 PM #54
We don't find it fun, but enough people do it that I can only assume they do.
17-08-2011, 06:55 PM #55
I think that sort of thing ought to be dealt with by having good map design though. There should either be a "no-go zone" of some sort for the attackers, to let the defenders spread out, or there should be enough exits from the spawn that the attackers can never cover them all well enough to get a containment going on. Also things like higher ground/cover around the spawn should help those trying to escape, to do so.
17-08-2011, 06:59 PM #56
17-08-2011, 10:10 PM #57
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Whether a server is plagued by insufferable people, noobs or otherwise, or the teams are stacked, I just leave and find a better server. I'm certainly not going to waste my time trying to organize any rebalancing effort on the chat because it never works on a random server. That's exactly why playing on a well admined community server is so much more fun. If people feel that the general level of behaviour is higher, they'll usually be more friendly and patient themselves.
Playing with voice comms also gives you more time to actually help out the inexperienced players with a tip or two. I usually treat low level teammates just like I treat anyone else: give them ammo/health and a chance to respawn and advance as a team. If they are not interested I ignore them and go on my own. I also try to follow the same logic if I'm new to a game. I'll follow the more experienced guys and try to learn something along the way.
18-08-2011, 02:45 AM #58
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I help newbies and people genuinely interested in learning a certain game's mechanics.
I despise noobs who are just rude and can't type for ****.
18-08-2011, 10:03 AM #59
I don't understand the words that you people are typing (I think I got 'ganked' once in the 90's at school but I never told anyone), but it's heartening to see that most people here help new players.
L4D is my favourite (the only) online game I play because if you get rubbish people or dickheads, they actually fit quite nicely into the storyline of the 'movie' just as much as heroes or sacrificial people do. I love it.
Worse for me are not nubez or whatever, but hardcore players. Like a lot of people on this thread I play to have fun, which might be, say, getting stuck upstairs with someone hopelessly fighting the zombie hoard with a baseball bat until we are overwhelmed. Not 4 people sitting still in a glitched cupboard until they've killed all the zombies that clip through a certain wall.
Sometimes I get called a neube not for being dickish, but simply for not knowing or not exploiting every last glitch, design flaw or nook and cranny of a level. That really gets my goat!
18-08-2011, 10:18 AM #60
I helped train some noobs in sword fighting on Mount and Blade and always tell tell people how to blow up cover in Frozen Synapse if it seems they don't know how to, so I guess I land in the help educate them area.