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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    Can you elaborate why? Given only one person could survive the event, there didn't seem to be any play/strategy to him declaring his affections for Katniss from the viewpoint of duplicity without some degree of foresight as to how things would play out. He could never know that things would work out the way that they did.
    'cos it was clear that he had a thing for her and she knew he liked her, so basically she used that to survive.

    Katniss is a horrible, horrible person.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    ...she used that to survive.

    Katniss is a horrible, horrible person.
    What?

    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    ...PLEASE KISS ME BUT NOTHING MORE BECAUSE THAT IS NOT ALLOWED stuff, that's all.
    Which YA books differ from that stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane View Post
    Which YA books differ from that stuff?
    Jim C. Hines' Princess series, Ari Marmell's Widdershins books, arguably Anne McCaffrey's Crystal Singer trilogy, Cinda Williams Chima's Seven Realms books and even Clive Barker's Abarat books allude to rape, not to mention they're definitely influenced by his horror works.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane View Post
    Which YA books differ from that stuff?
    The CHERUB series by Robert Muchamore. Not recommended, unless you're a hormonal 14-year-old boy,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    'cos it was clear that he had a thing for her and she knew he liked her, so basically she used that to survive.

    Katniss is a horrible, horrible person.
    Yes, but I'm not on about how her character is portrayed, I'm on about his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    Yes, but I'm not on about how her character is portrayed, I'm on about his.
    He's like a lovestruck puppy. Katniss could boot him off a waterfall and he'd come back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by frenz0rz View Post
    Right now I'm reading Brave New World. So far its not quite what I'd expected - similar in some ways to 1984, but mostly very, very different.
    It isn't nearly as gut-wrenchingly horrifying as 1984, that's for sure. Brave New World come across as a 'mere' cautionary tale, whereas 1984 wants to grind your face into the mud until you acknowledge your own powerlessness. To put it another way, Brave New World was for me a mostly intellectual experience, whereas the greater part of 1984's effect on me was at the emotional level.
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    The same is true for Animal Farm, I guess.

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    Eh. I understood both BNW and 1984 on an intellectual level - and the third in that dystopian trio would likely be We by Yevgeny Zamyatin - but for gut-wrenching, the first book that comes to mind is Burmese Days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    Eh. I understood both BNW and 1984 on an intellectual level - and the third in that dystopian trio would likely be We by Yevgeny Zamyatin - but for gut-wrenching, the first book that comes to mind is Burmese Days.
    The baby of the trio is Nineteen Eighty-Four. If you merge We and Brave New World, chances are the offspring would be Orwell's book. It's got the looks of its mother (We), possibly its fathers attitude (Brave New World). BNW is, funnily enough, the only one of the three I've not read.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    The baby of the trio is Nineteen Eighty-Four. If you merge We and Brave New World, chances are the offspring would be Orwell's book. It's got the looks of its mother (We), possibly its fathers attitude (Brave New World). BNW is, funnily enough, the only one of the three I've not read.
    BNW reads like a critique of consumerism as a culture more than of totalitarianism as a mode of governance. At any rate.

    Edit: Speaking of a reality comprised entirely of media marketing, there's also The Dick Gibson Show by Stanley Elkin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    He's like a lovestruck puppy. Katniss could boot him off a waterfall and he'd come back.
    See this is the problem, he's just too passive. Also I thought you'd like the character of Katniss tbh (strong, pragmatic determined female), what's with the hatin? Or do I need to read the rest of the trilogy to find out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    Or do I need to read the rest of the trilogy to find out?
    Oh gee, I just can't wait to hear whether Althea will recommend the third book!

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    I recommend it solely on the basis that you'll want to finish the series and thus draw a line under it.


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    BNW reads like a critique of consumerism as a culture more than of totalitarianism as a mode of governance. At any rate.


    I agree with this, a lot of the stuff that is famous to the book is actually really a small part of the book. I was surprised that it really is a escape romance novel set in a dystopian world with a little bit of social commentry in there. Its not what people think when they hear about it.

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    Two chapters of Catch-22 and all I could say is...... wat

    Maybe I wasn't concentrating while I was reading it. I think I should get back on the last chapter.
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    Nothing To Envy: Real Lives in North Korea by Ms. Barbara Demick.

    This book is not available in local retails here for very obvious reason, but for whatever channels you obtain a copy of this book, the local authority doesn't give a damn. No stocking by local bookstores and they have done their work. Last week is the Golden Week associated with the Labor Day on 1st May, one of my friend visiting Hong Kong brought back this souvenir for me. It's the accounts of the interviews by Ms. Barbara Demick, a journalist with the L.A. Times newspaper, with North Korea's deflectors in South Korea, describing their lives back in North Korea. I am reading its first chapter, a deflected woman, who was a girl back then, talked about how she secretly dated a boy at nights by avoiding attentions from neighbors and their own families.

    There was brief mentioning of the collapse of the North Korea's economy in the 1990s, which as Ms. Demick put it, was mainly the result of the termination of cheap oil supply from its big brother the USSR as a direct result of the downfall of the Soviet Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mentelletnem View Post
    anyone know the books sequel to the hunger games?
    The second book is Catching Fire, the third is Mockingjay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voon View Post
    Two chapters of Catch-22 and all I could say is...... wat

    Maybe I wasn't concentrating while I was reading it. I think I should get back on the last chapter.
    I think ...... wat was pretty much all I could say after finishing the whole thing, I really enjoyed it and it's very well written but I did find it quite hard to follow in a lot of places, stick it out though, it's worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westyfield View Post
    The second book is Catching Fire, the third is Mockingjay.
    Pretty sure that's a spammer.


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