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31-08-2013, 04:34 PM #1
Curse you steam/origin
My copy of Rome 2 came today in the mail, which hooray is great. It's obviously 3 days early. But I can't play it for the next 2 and a bit days because it's locked by Steam, which to me, is by far and away the most annoying thing Steam does. The game is here and I own it, but I arbitrarily can't play it until Steam says. I do love Steam, but that as well as Splinter Cell not unlocking until 6pm on the 23rd for some stupid reason is certainly showing it's bad side. That goes for Origin as well if it follows the same rules.
I know it's a relatively minor grumble, but please, someone pat my hat and tell me it's going to be OK : (steam: sketch
31-08-2013, 04:39 PM #2
<hug> <gentle pat> It's Steams way of building up the anticipation (which is always the best part in everything). It's their way of showing you they care.
Or perhaps they just enjoy the sound of gnashing teeth and revel in peoples angst :)
31-08-2013, 04:40 PM #3
31-08-2013, 04:41 PM #4
It's mostly so they can prevent 0-day piracy. If nobody has the exe, then they can't crack it.
31-08-2013, 04:46 PM #5
31-08-2013, 04:53 PM #6
spotflux works like a charm. you just go offline on steam for three days.
31-08-2013, 05:23 PM #7
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31-08-2013, 05:28 PM #8
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31-08-2013, 06:53 PM #9
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I feel your pain. The same thing happened to me with XCOM.
It's stopped me from buying physical copies now anyway, and thankfully there is pre-load on Rome II so no waiting on release day!
31-08-2013, 09:56 PM #10
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preloadings all done here!
31-08-2013, 10:31 PM #11
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You could fiddle - I hear that was popular in the period you're about to enjoy...
VPN won't help here - it's not available anywhere at all yet is it?Creator of Steam Greenlight LITE
31-08-2013, 10:36 PM #12
A friend of mine got Gears of War 3 a couple of days before release along with a note telling him "please don't play this until release". The note didn't work."Halo is designed to make the player think "I look like that, I am macho sitting in my undies with my xbox""
01-09-2013, 01:10 AM #13
Welcome to the new age of DRM. Then come here to Australia where sometimes we get the US release, then sometimes the EU release, then some other times another date entirely.
I get that they don't want people to crack it but I think the more pertinent issue is timing it with official availability of boxed copies in brick-and-mortar stores, which is a joke since street dates are apparently only advisories and nobody cares about it anymore. I don't see what difference 3 days is going to make if they just release it now.Nalano's Law - As an online gaming discussion regarding restrictions grows longer, the probability of a post likening the topic to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea approaches one.
01-09-2013, 02:16 AM #14
While I agree that this is annoying (and, back before Amazon was regulated, I suffered from this more than a few times), I am actually okay with it for the initial release date (so the Tuesday it comes out in the US/the previous thursday in the EU for those rare games that hit europe first).
Why? Elemental. Yes, it was a fucked up release and there were serious design issues to begin with, but it was even more fucked because of Best Buy. Best buy, for whatever reason, decided to release it early. Stardock, for all they fucked up, at least tried to do right by their customers (and pre-orders) by hurrying to finish a -3day patch and let us play. And trust me when I say that the pre-0day game was even more broken than the 0day version.
So yeah, it is annoying, and it is clear that 0day patches are heavily skewed toward killing piracy. But there are also a lot of things that are actually fixed by those (don't believe me, read any review where the reviewer admits that some stuff didn't work but a 0day patch should fix it), and the devs and publishers target that release date for when the patch needs to have QA and testing completed (to the extent they do any :p).
As for the over the seas issues: Blame your own country and your local version of Gamestop on that one.
01-09-2013, 02:52 AM #15
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01-09-2013, 03:00 AM #16
And even then hardly anybody's buying from the local retailers (or Steam for that matter!) since it's cheaper to buy keys from Green Man Gaming or import physical media (usually around 50% cheaper!). So really, I don't know what the local retailers have to do with it when publishers screw around with release dates unnecessarily.
From Steam's perspective maybe they do a staggered release to avoid bringing down the auth servers during decryption/unlock... not that it apparently makes any difference because it seems to be a common theme anyway.Nalano's Law - As an online gaming discussion regarding restrictions grows longer, the probability of a post likening the topic to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea approaches one.
01-09-2013, 03:02 AM #17
That is why games are almost always released on Tuesday in the US, and new comics always come out on Wednesday in the US. Because that is when the stores accept them/when the trucks are available. And I suggest reading up on the hilarious failure that was Elemental as Wardell did shine some light on the problem of release slots (Stardock knew the game wasn't ready, but it was either release then or release a few months later).
But you are right, for PC games, those slots are already few and far between. And most stores barely care. That is why so many games are digital only these days. But if you ARE one of the publishers who has contracts and can get slots, they can be VERY helpful. I may hate gamestop with a passion and refuse to give them any business, but I know I've walked past their shop at the mall, saw an entire corner full of Civ 5 and said "ooh, I could go for some Civ 4." And normal people might even buy the game being advertised :p. Hell, one might even argue that one reason WoW and Starcraft 2 sell so well is that they are basically the only PC games you can buy in those retail chains.
And even if you don't care about that advertising: The companies that still tend to do retail releases are also the ones who do multiple platforms. And if you piss of Gamestop/game with your PC title, who is to say they won't torpedo your PS3 game you are releasing next month? Gamestop and the other retailers have a long history of throwing their weight around to get preferential treatment and try to keep digital down (because they saw how they became meaningless in the face of Steam). So maybe nobody buys retail copies of Total War, but what about the latest Sonic game (or whatever else Sega makes these days :p)?
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01-09-2013, 04:00 AM #18
Really? I can't speak for the US obviously but over here they can often be at the store a day or so before official release, hence why they can break so many goddamn dates. After all they've got to be physically shipped over here and then distributed out to the stores, that's not a single-day operation...Nalano's Law - As an online gaming discussion regarding restrictions grows longer, the probability of a post likening the topic to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea approaches one.
01-09-2013, 04:17 AM #19
But by having that set date, it avoids problems like Best Buy in Burbank being able to sell the latest manshoot a week before Circuit City in Encino (is Circuit City even still in business?). Obviously a lot of those stores just say "Fuck it, we want fast sales", but that can also theoretically lead to penalties (it just doesn't very often as those retail chains still throw their weight around and the like) and screws over the customer anyway (and is a good way to hurt customer loyalty if you aren't able to consistently break the release date).
In my personal experience, back when I used to buy retail games at Best Buy, they usually had it arrive the night before (so Monday for video games, if memory serves) and I would have to explicitly ask them (and wait for the person to finish talking to his friends) to check the back to get me a copy in the afternoon.
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01-09-2013, 09:41 AM #20
I do have some happy memories of browsing the racks of games and even playing demos of console games back when they used to have such things, though.
Attempting to be on-topic, I don't mind something having a release date and not being available until then, because then we all get to experience something for the first time together (if we're interested and can afford the price at release, etc.). However, region-specific and platform-specific release dates work against this, so should be avoided as much as possible."Harry uses the One Ring to defeat Magneto and save the Rebellion!"
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