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    [VS]Outfit Chat 2 October 20:00 BST (19:00 UTC)

    Yeah, that thing where we all get to say about the direction of the Outfit.
    As ever, reply to this thread with stuff you want on the Agenda, and provided I don't think it's stupid, it will get added. Especially as I have less ideas for the Agenda than ever.

    Agenda:
    • Theme weeks. People seemed to like these. As the outfit has shrunk a little these seem to have died out. Should we make them happen again. What theme should we start with?
    • Outfit Size. The outfit grew continuously from the launch of PS2 up until June this year. Since then it's declined pretty sharply. Do we care? Do we want to do anything about it? It's worth noting that PS2 player numbers seem to be down a lot too.
    • Comms. Can we ditch the old system to parking and just use the direct comms channels now?
    • November Outfit Meet
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    I'll probably not make the meeting unfortunately so here are my thoughts:

    - theme weeks are fun, see the original thread for my suggestions.
    - I like the outfit size as it is. No point trying to pull people in, they'll play if they want to. Smaller seems to work better and be more fun.
    - agree with the comms suggestion.
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    Can you add the November meet up to the agenda? We need to get people signed up and all the details arranged. I'll do my best to attend.

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    Does the "reorganisation of Balloon leaders" thing need to be re-introduced? Im not sure if anything has been continued with this?

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    Did this meeting happen? What were the outcomes?

    Kinda mighta sorta spent my day playing BF4 :P

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    I hopped on later (I'd been out viewing places to live) and despit ethe channel being full of people, was told that it hadn't happened.

    I made dissaproving noises.

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    The topic was raised briefly, but then we got distracted by an alert, so in the end it didn't happen. :/

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    I'm both disappointed that no one cared enough to make it happen and happy because i will be able to be there Hen it finally happens (a headache prevented me from being online yesterday)

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    Can we reschedule? It's important to have one this month I think. I wasn't able to make it as my PC is out of action due to not having a CPU...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cei View Post
    Can we reschedule? It's important to have one this month I think. I wasn't able to make it as my PC is out of action due to not having a CPU...
    For those who don't know, Mumble is available on Android (don't know about iOS).

    And yes, we have to reschedule. Probably Next Wednesday. Not that I'm happy it will be delayed so long, but that would be a day where there are the most people while not being the important StratGir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksempac View Post
    For those who don't know, Mumble is available on Android (don't know about iOS).

    And yes, we have to reschedule. Probably Next Wednesday. Not that I'm happy it will be delayed so long, but that would be a day where there are the most people while not being the important StratGir
    Yeah, it's on iOS too. My plan was to join the meeting on my iPod whilst I cooked dinner, but the bus home took longer than expected and I didn't get in until about 9pm.
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    Again, does this need to be raised: "reorganisation of Balloon leaders"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooper View Post
    My plan was to join the meeting on my iPod whilst I cooked dinner
    I have done that in the past (with Android) and it didn't work so well. I could hear people ok but anything I said was apparently coming across as an incoherent stream of digital sounds (I hope that isn't just what people make of my voice!). It may have been my phone or other non-systemic cause but worth trying it out beforehand if anyone is planning to make a vital contribution by phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyTrooper View Post
    I have done that in the past (with Android) and it didn't work so well. I could hear people ok but anything I said was apparently coming across as an incoherent stream of digital sounds (I hope that isn't just what people make of my voice!). It may have been my phone or other non-systemic cause but worth trying it out beforehand if anyone is planning to make a vital contribution by phone.
    Regardless of your phone or mic, you can always type message. I've done it once. Not as good as speaking but allows you to participate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksempac View Post
    Regardless of your phone or mic, you can always type message. I've done it once. Not as good as speaking but allows you to participate.
    Agreed. Though when you are cooking dinner you need you hands free so typing is inconvenient. Anyway, at this point I'm probably just being my usual pedantic self. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BasicPauly View Post
    Again, does this need to be raised: "reorganisation of Balloon leaders"
    Yes. "Listen to the last outfit chat and push this forward" has been on my to-do list for a long time now.

    It's still underneath "finish minor corrections and get that bloody PhD" though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooper View Post
    Yes. "Listen to the last outfit chat and push this forward" has been on my to-do list for a long time now.

    It's still underneath "finish minor corrections and get that bloody PhD" though.
    Cool. I was thinking more along the lines of pushing it through with the other guys taking the lead, specifically because you are busy, but if you want to take the lead on it then thats perfect anyway.

    Just thought I should mention it since its been ages since the idea was suggested .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BasicPauly View Post
    Cool. I was thinking more along the lines of pushing it through with the other guys taking the lead, specifically because you are busy, but if you want to take the lead on it then thats perfect anyway.

    Just thought I should mention it since its been ages since the idea was suggested .
    Anyone can start the push.

    What we need is the following:
    - A bullet-point style list of "what it means to be a BL". The kind of shared responsibilities that we think the job should encompass. (So that it's no longer "was a good PL")

    - A decision on a simple way of handing out the role that a) encourages volunteers and b) encourages people to suggest others as BL.

    - Whether BLs can be given 'specialisations' such as the 'outfit project leads' thing I tried to get off the ground or whether 'project leads' should just be seperate.

    - Finally, some kind of basic guidelines on what BL should mean to other outfit members. Something along the lines of it not being about authority, pre se, but a simple statement that these should be considered members of the outfit who put a lot of hard work into making the outfit run smoothly and should be afforded some respect on that basis.
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    I want to introduce a new, controversial talking point for this meeting : Culling inactive members. I would suggest culling people who haven't played for 60 days (which is pretty large).

    It's related to the outfit size discussion point, but i wanna raise the point so that people can think about it.

    My reasoning is the following : The number of people playing are shrinking, but it seems to me that people haven't registered that fact. Unconsciously when we discuss/think about the outfit they still think/react as if we were a big outfit. I see that on several topics such as opportunities to play different styles (ex : TacGir, training,...), organizing events (silly mondays, zombies night, ...), need for leaders (what's the current "leader/members" ratio among active players ?), etc.

    So that's why I'm proposing to cull the inactive members, so that people get a reality check on the current status of this outfit.
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