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    Do you trust RPS?

    These are your choices. Pick as many as you like -

    Yes.
    No.
    Not sure.
    Yes and No.
    No and Yes.
    Yes, but I'm not sure. No.

    I don't trust their reviews if they've had ads for the games on the site.
    I only trust their reviews if they've had ads for the games on the site.
    I don't trust any reviews from any site.
    I trust all reviews from every site.
    I trust all reviews from RPS

    I used to trust RPS. I don't any more.
    I never used to trust RPS. I do now.
    I trust RPS more than my mother.
    My mother doesn't trust RPS.

    I stopped trusting RPS when Quintin left and got a job in marketing.
    I started trusting RPS when Quintin left. Never liked him.
    I stopped trusting Quintin when he left.
    Quintin was my favourite. I miss him.
    Quintin is one of my favourites. So are John, Jim, Alec, and Kieron. I miss him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by President Weasel View Post
    Can I choose "go away now, you became actively irritating two threads ago"? Because I choose that. That is what I choose.
    That's my option too.

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    I like RPS' articles.

    I fail to see why I should have to qualify that statement.
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    Yes.


    I trust all reviews from RPS

    I trust RPS more than my mother.

    Quintin is one of my favourites. So are John, Jim, Alec, and Kieron. I miss him.

    I bolded the options you should have added in.


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    Regarding your viewpoint on reviews posted at the same time as adverts for the same game; Quinns gave Fallout: New Vegas a bollocking when they had FO:NV ads up. John gave Mafia II a poor review whilst ads were up. Jim gave a completely balanced review of Red Orchestra 2, which has been the subject of your angst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Bakke View Post
    Yes.


    I trust all reviews from RPS


    I trust RPS more than my mother.


    Quintin is one of my favourites. So are John, Jim, Alec, and Kieron. I miss him.

    I bolded the options you should have added in.
    On it. Thanks.

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    I haven't trusted RPS since we played hide and seek, and they never came to find me!
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    Can I just say no? I read articles and find really trivial flaws (Such as recently in a bargain post, Civ V was referred to as releasing this year) or scaremongering for the sake of hits (Skyrim GfWL scare).

    It seems to be more about posting the odd press release and review rather than looking at the state of PC gaming. I don't remember RPS ever bringing up the lack of Collector's Edition for Arkham City, but they mentioned it's delayed. With Ubisoft, who actually treat the PC better than some regardless of their DRM methods and delays, they're almost always vitriolic and damning, yet with Mojang and his £15-not-even-finished game and Paradox they're all worshippy.

    RPS can be a fun read sometimes, and I must admit I find it better than the lamentable PC Gamer, but sometimes it does grind my gears.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UnravThreads View Post
    I don't remember RPS ever bringing up the lack of Collector's Edition for Arkham City, but they mentioned it's delayed.
    Haha. That's a great point, I don't know why we didn't jump right on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rossignol View Post
    Haha. That's a great point, I don't know why we didn't jump right on that.
    It could have been mentioned, but I don't remember seeing it, so there is a chance I'm wrong on that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UnravThreads View Post

    It seems to be more about posting the odd press release and review rather than looking at the state of PC gaming. I don't remember RPS ever bringing up the lack of Collector's Edition for Arkham City, but they mentioned it's delayed. With Ubisoft, who actually treat the PC better than some regardless of their DRM methods and delays, they're almost always vitriolic and damning, yet with Mojang and his £15-not-even-finished game and Paradox they're all worshippy.
    This.

    It's fucking ridiculous. It's almost like RPS is run by a bunch of real people with actual thoughts, opinions and natural biases. Fuck that shit, what am I paying for if RPS isn't being created by a programmatically neutral news-aggregating AI? Gin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deano2099 View Post
    It's fucking ridiculous. It's almost like RPS is run by a bunch of real people with actual thoughts, opinions and natural biases. Fuck that shit, what am I paying for if RPS isn't being created by a programmatically neutral news-aggregating AI? Gin?
    I'm guessing that's a less than sly jab at what I said.

    I'm all for RPS posting news, and I understand it's a small team, but it feels - to me - as if important things for PC gamers are being overlooked. We get pieces laying into Ubisoft who, unlike some other major publishers, actually develop and publish niche titles for the PC (The Settlers, Anno, Might & Magic; They have had handheld releases, though, but usually not like the PC titles) but they did screw up with their DRM, although I must confess I am not finding it all that bad.

    We get pieces which are baseless scaremongering (Skyrim GfWL scare), but then it seems as if pieces relating to the actual screwing over of PC gamers, such as the lack of CE for Arkham City or Ubisoft's inability to release anything meaningful about their PC titles in English, are either not published or the issues aren't mentioned at all. I mean I'm thankful RPS doesn't focus on MMOs all that much, because with Massively and Curse around it's just not needed, but I would love to see more pieces that deal with the state of PC gaming rather than laying into a flawed publisher who make mistakes but still support the PC.

    Another article recently that got me thinking was the one about the Unwritten Tales adventure game. No mention was made of its release date in the UK, although it had been announced the week before. It was a good piece, but it seemed a bit odd because it missed out a key bit of information.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UnravThreads View Post
    I'm guessing that's a less than sly jab at what I said.

    I'm all for RPS posting news, and I understand it's a small team, but it feels - to me - as if important things for PC gamers are being overlooked. We get pieces laying into Ubisoft who, unlike some other major publishers, actually develop and publish niche titles for the PC (The Settlers, Anno, Might & Magic; They have had handheld releases, though, but usually not like the PC titles) but they did screw up with their DRM, although I must confess I am not finding it all that bad.

    We get pieces which are baseless scaremongering (Skyrim GfWL scare), but then it seems as if pieces relating to the actual screwing over of PC gamers, such as the lack of CE for Arkham City or Ubisoft's inability to release anything meaningful about their PC titles in English, are either not published or the issues aren't mentioned at all. I mean I'm thankful RPS doesn't focus on MMOs all that much, because with Massively and Curse around it's just not needed, but I would love to see more pieces that deal with the state of PC gaming rather than laying into a flawed publisher who make mistakes but still support the PC.

    Another article recently that got me thinking was the one about the Unwritten Tales adventure game. No mention was made of its release date in the UK, although it had been announced the week before. It was a good piece, but it seemed a bit odd because it missed out a key bit of information.
    So what you're saying - or, at least, what I'm getting out of your post - is that RPS needs more writers. :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnravThreads View Post
    I'm all for RPS posting news, and I understand it's a small team, but it feels - to me - as if important things for PC gamers are being overlooked.
    Given the writers are all PC gamers, and ones who write about what they feel is important to them as PC gamers, then it seems to me that they simply disagree on what's important with you.

    Plus of course you actually need something interesting to write an article about in the first place. Ubi's always on DRM is kinda interesting, Ubi's inability to find decent English translators not so much. I mean you could spin it out into an article about companies favouring their home market over foreign markets, but not only would that be somewhat out of place on RPS, it's old news in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnravThreads View Post
    pieces relating to the actual screwing over of PC gamers, such as the lack of CE for Arkham City
    Why would this even be an issue? So there isn't currently a horrendously overpriced version of the game featuring extra tat and nonsense? Well, fuck me, let me write a letter to my fucking MP. I wasn't aware that I wasn't being given the choice to spend even more of my hard earned cash and get the exact same game as an end result.

    It's a non-issue and now I'm going to ignore you. Good night.

    EDIT: As an aside, Ubisoft don't "support" the PC - they may release games for the format, but they sure as hell don't support it as much as exploit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpk View Post
    EDIT: As an aside, Ubisoft don't "support" the PC - they may release games for the format, but they sure as hell don't support it as much as exploit it.
    I dont think that. I think Ubisoft is a company with internal difficulties getting their act together. The console bits all apparently work, but again, the console versions have very strict deadlines. The PC, not so. (theres an article floating around somewhere, for indie developers, on which way to publish things, look it up)

    Heck, there are even "segregated" developer teams in ubisoft internally. I dont know if this has an effect on productivity or not, but like I said, it just seems to me like a slightly malfunctioning company. (remember the AC soundtrack being the rip someone made, just added on into the collectors edition?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpk View Post
    Why would this even be an issue? So there isn't currently a horrendously overpriced version of the game featuring extra tat and nonsense? Well, fuck me, let me write a letter to my fucking MP. I wasn't aware that I wasn't being given the choice to spend even more of my hard earned cash and get the exact same game as an end result.

    It's a non-issue and now I'm going to ignore you. Good night.
    It's a non-issue for you. Some of us may want the collector's edition, or be interested in it, and as such it's an issue for us. There's also the bigger picture in which it shows that the PC has been sidelined to some degree and that the studio/publisher haven't got a clue what their fans want. For Arkham City itself, they've made a big song and dance about PhysX and higher quality textures (Oh wow I am so excited about that I've never had PhysX in a game before), they've added 3D (For the few who have it) and they've gone and whacked GfWL onto it despite a lot of people not liking it or having problems with it, but also despite developers generally moving away from it.

    If you don't want the CE, fine, but there was absolutely no need for that attitude.

    Quote Originally Posted by deano2099 View Post
    Nope, things important to *you* are being overlooked. "PC gamers" are not some homogeneous entity. We're all individuals and what one thinks is important others might not. RPS makes no claims to being a comprehensive PC website. Indeed, they're nothing more than a blog and are happy to admit that. A bunch of people that write about what interests them in the field of PC games. There's a good chance it'll match up with what interests you. But it might not. In which case maybe it isn't the site for you. I have to admit, I've read less stuff on here (at least proportionally) since Kieron left. Just because my tastes matched up with his particularly well. But I don't criticise them for that.
    Again, I'm not criticising them as such for it as I know they're a small team, but I'm saying a bit more attention on situations where PC gamers get less for no reason wouldn't go amiss because, as you rightly said, I think it's important. I need more than two hands to count all the instances I can think of where PC gamers have come off worse for no reason, and I think if anyone can do a look at the industry in that style, it'd be RPS. The Escapist is just shit, PC Gamer is a load of wank and Kotaku is too busy fawning over Japanese ladies with breasts the size of Humvee wheels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UnravThreads View Post
    I'm all for RPS posting news, and I understand it's a small team, but it feels - to me - as if important things for PC gamers are being overlooked.
    Nope, things important to *you* are being overlooked. "PC gamers" are not some homogeneous entity. We're all individuals and what one thinks is important others might not. RPS makes no claims to being a comprehensive PC website. Indeed, they're nothing more than a blog and are happy to admit that. A bunch of people that write about what interests them in the field of PC games. There's a good chance it'll match up with what interests you. But it might not. In which case maybe it isn't the site for you. I have to admit, I've read less stuff on here (at least proportionally) since Kieron left. Just because my tastes matched up with his particularly well. But I don't criticise them for that.

    And if you really think something has been overlooked, tweet them or email contact@rockpapershotgun.com - just the once. Then they're aware of it. If they chose not to cover it that's their choice.

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    I don't get what your problem is Redox, there is no conspiracy.

    I think you're underestimating the people on the site (as well as the writers) if you think we're all under the influence of some marketing ploy where we all buy whatever game RPS is being paid to sell us.

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