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    Finally beated Taurus Demon. Then, a f'ing dragon out of nowhere.

    I love this game.

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    I'm in the Undead Parish, I've got past the boar. and a few fuckoff big knights. (And one VERY BIG FUCKOFF KNIGHT) and found a blacksmith.

    I'm a bit stuck as to where I go now. Each way seems to lead to a massive great bastard who zaps me with lightning or magic or a big axe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laneford View Post
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    Oh crap, I've been hammering my head against one of those for about... 20 deaths, at least. Playing as a thief. Maybe I should change class, since I can't deal even 100 damage with riposte against those bastards.

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    You guys got the Drake sword? Using that makes short work of the knights.

    You need to go into the church next. There are 3 knights in there (lure them out 1 at a time). There is also a huge guy with a shield in there (not too hard if you can dodge). Fight all of these outside the church as there is an annoying magic user on the 1st floor, who will happily zap you whilst you fight the knights.

    Make sure you tag the fire by the blacksmith, and find the shortcut back to the firelink shrine.

    Then head upwards from the shortcut onto the 1st floor of the church. Kill the mage, and the room full of zombies and keep heading up. Prepare to get very frustrated on the gargoyle boss.

    Best thing to do on this boss is to use humanity to become human, and summon help (the npc you can summon is excellent). But make sure to practice on the boss a few times first though, so you don't waste your humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira- View Post
    Oh crap, I've been hammering my head against one of those for about... 20 deaths, at least. Playing as a thief. Maybe I should change class, since I can't deal even 100 damage with riposte against those bastards.
    Class doesn't really matter overall. Choice of weapon and where you put your stats does.

    No need to restart, unless you want to that is.

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    Man, this game was totally worth the wait. I had the day off yesterday and I think I ended up playing it for something like 8 hours straight. Currently in Blight Town which is a horrible horrible place. Giants with big hammers who can knock you off the sides to your doom, creepy sort of lizard faced fuckers who have an unblockable grab attack that takes off most of your health, dogs who breath fire and these dicks who shoot poison blow darts at you. Plus it's really dark and sadly there are some unacceptable frame rate drops. I outright abandoned 7k souls last night as I died somewhere stupid and couldn't face trying to get them back.

    My best advice for this game is not to play when you're really tired, because you make mistakes and you can't afford to in this game. Also I found the gargoyles kind of easy, I got them first time with the help of Knight Solaire, remember you can use your shield to partially block the fire attacks (and you can get a decent axe if you cut their tails off)

    The boss who annoyed me the most was the Capra demon, he does a tonne of damage if he hits and he has two dog minions backing him up, who won't give you a seconds rest until you take them out. I ended that fight (4th or 5th try) with no Estus Flasks, the tiniest sliver of health and a pounding heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jockie View Post
    Currently in Blight Town which is a horrible horrible place. Giants with big hammers who can knock you off the sides to your doom, creepy sort of lizard faced fuckers who have an unblockable grab attack that takes off most of your health, dogs who breath fire and these dicks who shoot poison blow darts at you. Plus it's really dark and sadly there are some unacceptable frame rate drops. I outright abandoned 7k souls last night as I died somewhere stupid and couldn't face trying to get them back.
    Oh great, that is where I am headed next!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jockie View Post
    Also I found the gargoyles kind of easy, I got them first time with the help of Knight Solaire, remember you can use your shield to partially block the fire attacks (and you can get a decent axe if you cut their tails off).
    I found the gargoyles very tricky myself. Most the time I did not have the humanity to summon help, and only some shields (none of which I have found yet) block fire damage well. What made it worse is that I have low poise, so being hit by fire staggers me, then the other one hits me with his halberd :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Jockie View Post
    The boss who annoyed me the most was the Capra demon, he does a tonne of damage if he hits and he has two dog minions backing him up, who won't give you a seconds rest until you take them out. I ended that fight (4th or 5th try) with no Estus Flasks, the tiniest sliver of health and a pounding heart.
    I actually found Capra fairly easy. Only difficulty was the dogs. Once they were down I trounced him.

    How did you find Gaping Dragon? Seen some people complaining about how hard he is. Surprised myself by taking him out first time without a scratch.

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    I died to him twice, first time because I was daftly wearing heavy armour and didn't have the speed to dodge his attacks.

    The second time was probably my most frustrating death yet. He was literally one hit away from death so I tried to get an extra hit in when he was vulnerable and I sort of clipped through his body and then he ate me for a one-shot insta kill (it was a pretty cool special death animation though!).


    The thing with blight town is, individually the enemies aren't very hard at all. But they're all capable of suddenly ending you, in a way that most enemies in the depths or previous areas haven't been (those frog things aside, but I was pre-warned against them and didn't have any trouble), it requires a degree of concentration that I couldn't muster last night. On the plus side, you get a ninja outfit there with great poison resist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desvergeh View Post
    Class doesn't really matter overall. Choice of weapon and where you put your stats does.

    No need to restart, unless you want to that is.
    Oh, okay. A friend of mine (veteran of Demon's Souls) said that thief would be the second hardest class to play. And I've been wondering wether it's meant to be that I need to riposte a Hollow Knight three to four times before he falls down. Might try again now that I'm rested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira- View Post
    Oh, okay. A friend of mine (veteran of Demon's Souls) said that thief would be the second hardest class to play. And I've been wondering wether it's meant to be that I need to riposte a Hollow Knight three to four times before he falls down. Might try again now that I'm rested.
    Class determines your starting gear and stats. So initially thief is hard, but as soon as you have got some better gear, and allocated a few stat points all classes are fairly even.

    You mainly a dex build? I have gone wanderer myself, so using Drake sword, a couple of decent dex weapons, and pretty light armour.

    Not sure what the advantage of dual wielding weapons is over a shield. It doesn't allow you to attack quicker (need to wait for full attack animation, before attacking with offhand), and shield seems so much more useful defensively. Or am I missing something?

    Basically every character is an all-rounder in the game it seems. It helps to be able to do a bit of everything, as different enemies and bosses need different tactics. So pick up a bow, shield and bit of magic as soon as you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desvergeh View Post
    Class determines your starting gear and stats. So initially thief is hard, but as soon as you have got some better gear, and allocated a few stat points all classes are fairly even.

    You mainly a dex build? I have gone wanderer myself, so using Drake sword, a couple of decent dex weapons, and pretty light armour.
    Yeah, mainly invested in Dex and Endurance, one point to Vitality. Short sword and the first shield found in the game.

    Basically every character is an all-rounder in the game it seems. It helps to be able to do a bit of everything, as different enemies and bosses need different tactics. So pick up a bow, shield and bit of magic as soon as you can.
    Already got a crossbow, but no magic (yet). Well, gonna try a few times against those Hollow Knights if they have any notable weakness or tactic that works against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira- View Post
    Yeah, mainly invested in Dex and Endurance, one point to Vitality. Short sword and the first shield found in the game.
    Dex and endurance is pretty solid stat allocation.

    No idea on shortsword, never used it.

    You can get the drake sword before the knights. It is well worth it, and will make the game significantly easier (for a while). Not sure which shield you mean (first shield you find depends upon character), but generally you want to find yourself one with 100% damage reduction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira- View Post
    Already got a crossbow, but no magic (yet). Well, gonna try a few times against those Hollow Knights if they have any notable weakness or tactic that works against them.
    Can't say I like the crossbow, you can only aim with it using lock-on right? Bow is better, as you can aim in first person with it. Useful for pulling enemies one at a time. You can buy bow and arrows from the merchant in undead burg.

    I picked up Soul Arrow spell from the blacksmith underneath the firelink shrine. You can only get pyro magic later in the game (I think), unless you start with it of course.


    On the knights, there are two types. Rapier + buckler, and broadword + shield.

    The rapier ones I find are best to riposte. Parry their attack and riposte. Should take 1-2 ripostes using the drake sword.

    The broadsword knights I find are best to block. Block their attack, and follow up with an attack whilst they are staggered. You can dodge their attack and backstab them instead though.

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    I went for a pure melee build, completely neglecting magic, but I've met a couple of magic vendors and gotten a couple of unusable spells. Apart from the miracle vendor who starts at the shrine, there's a Sorceror and a Pyro trainer I've found so far. The Sorceror is just before the Capra Demon in Lower Undead Berg in one of the houses to the side (there's a full Sorceror armour set too if you smash all the barrels). The Pyro is in the Depths, in the area where you meet the two Butchers originally he's in a room filled with barrels, near the bit where you fight a bunch of dogs and a torchbearer in the water, before entering the sewers proper.

    I accidentally killed the Sorc trainer, which wasn't a big deal for me with my no-magic approach. But it's worth noting you get a swanky ring for doing so that you might be interested in for your Dex characters. Essentially all your movement becomes silent, which is really good for sneaking up on enemies with their backs turned for funstabs (I imagine it's not bad for pvp either, but I don't have an XBL sub).
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    Interesting...

    I didn't find the sorcerer trainer in undead burg. Might have to go looking for him. The blacksmith below firelink shrine sells a couple of sorcery spells if I remember right, which is where I got mine.

    Ring from the pyro trainer sounds good... but I also want the spells... and I also feel bad for attacking one of the few characters in the game who isn't trying to kill me. Funny in a way, that this comes across as a much stronger moral quandary than the little sisters ever were.

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    It's works as a moral quandary, because you actually feel like you're fighting for your survival in Dark souls. You don't want to kill the guy, but if he's useless to you and has something that will significantly aid you in your tortuous journey..

    Having said that I was just trying to skip his dialogue and accidently smacked him with a greatsword.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desvergeh View Post

    Not sure what the advantage of dual wielding weapons is over a shield. It doesn't allow you to attack quicker (need to wait for full attack animation, before attacking with offhand), and shield seems so much more useful defensively. Or am I missing something?
    Not sure if you mean Two Handing a weapon as opposed to dual wielding, but I would really not reccomend dual wielding unless you are feeling particularly cocky. Even with a weapon that can block in the off hand, you are going to take damage each time, and there are enemies you will need to block a lot with.

    That said, you sound like you are further than me, so what do I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laneford View Post
    Not sure if you mean Two Handing a weapon as opposed to dual wielding, but I would really not reccomend dual wielding unless you are feeling particularly cocky. Even with a weapon that can block in the off hand, you are going to take damage each time, and there are enemies you will need to block a lot with.

    That said, you sound like you are further than me, so what do I know.
    It's possible according to some, but you need to really master the parry/riposte stuff and it wont work on some enemies of course. i'd call it an advanced play-style (ie. way above my level)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jockie View Post
    It's possible according to some, but you need to really master the parry/riposte stuff and it wont work on some enemies of course. i'd call it an advanced play-style (ie. way above my level)
    Well I haven't found any real point to dual-wielding, that's my point. Just wasn't sure if I had missed something.

    I can see the disadvantages, but cannot see any compelling advantages.

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    Grinded a bit to get enough strength to use Drake Sword and suddenly I just breeze through all the obstacles, such as Bell Gargoyles. The summon helped also, as I didn't die once. Now, to figure a way to defeat that bastard near the blacksmith. Gotta say, I love this game more and more.

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    Damn you people. Reading this thread and now I've an uncontrollable urge to play this game. Time to check the bank balance.

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