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    The relation between Ubisoft, pirates and customers explained



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    Disagree. Despite the always-on portion sometimes being a bit restrictive and annoying at times, it's quite fair in other aspects. You don't need the disc in, you don't get other DRM like SecuROM (I believe) and you get unlimited installs.

    At least you don't have to have six thousand accounts, the disc in the drive and/or unnecessary software running consistently.


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    So... What you're saying is Pirates are tricking UBISOFT into thinking the Customers are being bad to UBISOFT, and then UBI are retaliating against Customers. So, essentially, it's the Pirate's fault.

    F*cking Pirates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unaco View Post
    So... What you're saying is Pirates are tricking UBISOFT into thinking the Customers are being bad to UBISOFT, and then UBI are retaliating against Customers. So, essentially, it's the Pirate's fault.

    F*cking Pirates.
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    Are you saying Ubisoft dress like twats?

    That's probably libel.

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    There will always be piracy, you shouldn't make things complicated with draconic bullshit DRM's for your legal customers because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnravThreads View Post
    and you get unlimited installs.
    ...until they turn off the servers in a couple of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnravThreads View Post
    you get unlimited installs
    When did this become something to commend a publisher for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowthief skank View Post
    When did this become something to commend a publisher for?
    In a day of activation limits, SecuROM et all, I think a major publisher not limiting installs/activations is a good thing.


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    If the game actually plays, then they've still got one up on EA.

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    the best drm is to have your games be shit, which ubisoft does quite well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider Jerusalem View Post
    the best drm is to have your games be shit, which ubisoft does quite well.
    Actually, I would say Ubisoft's output is consistently of a better quality than EA and possibly 2K.


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    The graphic does nicely summarize Ubi's overt, pointless hostility to their own paying customers. Well played, ZIGS. The part that's missing, however, is the customer getting up and kicking Ubi in the balls for their trouble. Ubisoft PC sales are down 90% since all this nonsense started, and I can't think of a publisher that deserves it more.

    Rob Zacny wrote a beautiful piece on the subject here:

    http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/10/07/op...ath-of-reason/

    In terms of actual sales, however, the results seem decidedly mixed. Michael Pachter told Eurogamer that Ubisoft’s “PC game sales are down 90% without a corresponding lift in console sales.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinraith View Post
    The graphic does nicely summarize Ubi's overt, pointless hostility to their own paying customers. Well played, ZIGS. The part that's missing, however, is the customer getting up and kicking Ubi in the balls for their trouble. Ubisoft PC sales are down 90% since all this nonsense started, and I can't think of a publisher that deserves it more.

    Rob Zacny wrote a beautiful piece on the subject here:

    http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/10/07/op...ath-of-reason/
    Until Ubisoft confirm those figures, I'm calling BS. Michael Pachter is rather notorious for being a bit... shit with numbers.

    If PC game sales are down, explain this:
    Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes PC port.
    Might & Magic Heroes VI + Collector's Edition + Merchandise
    The Settlers 7 + DLC + GotY Edition + Collector's Edition + Merchandise
    Anno 2070 + Collector's Edition
    Assassin's Creed: Whatever the next one is + Special Edition + Collector's Edition (Did I get that right?)
    Driver: Whatsit + Collector's Edition (Right?)
    Tintin
    And so forth.

    If the PC was doing that bad, chances are Ubisoft would likely cut its losses and drop the PC as a platform. But they haven't, and they clearly have no signs of stopping with high quality PC exclusive titles.


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    I'd like to think that the absence of an always-online requirement on several major upcoming titles (Assassin's Creed Revelation and Anno 2070, in particular) might be an indicator that they've finally learned their lesson. I'm probably being much too optimistic, however, seeing as we've been down this road before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinraith View Post
    I'm probably being much too optimistic, however, seeing as we've been down this road before.
    Yes, we have. And it was called Driver: San Francisco.

    Quote Originally Posted by UnravThreads View Post
    In a day of activation limits, SecuROM et all, I think a major publisher not limiting installs/activations is a good thing.
    That's quite a low bar you've set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    Yes, we have. And it was called Driver: San Francisco.
    Yup. That one didn't sting for me, personally, since I couldn't care less about the franchise. Nevertheless, it's pretty clear that Ubi's piratephobia overrides every other motivating factor, including an interest in driving sales or (*snort*) treating their customers decently. I just hope they don't pull a "From Dust" on the two titles I mentioned, I'd really hate to have to pass on those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    That's quite a low bar you've set.
    A positive thing is a positive thing, regardless of how big or small it is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    That's quite a low bar you've set.
    I like Ubisoft games because they don't put anthrax in their retail copies.

    Yet.

    Shit, I shouldn't be giving them ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnravThreads View Post
    A positive thing is a positive thing, regardless of how big or small it is.
    That's not positive, though. It's just less negative. Pointlessly inconveniencing someone slightly less than you used to doesn't mean you're doing a good thing.

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