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23-02-2015, 02:41 PM #1
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On Mosquito Buzzers & Prejudice (Split from RPS Moderation)
Mod Note: Sorry to hijack your post, Lethe, but some context is neccesary. This line of posts was originally in the RPS moderation thread as a reaction to the closure of a previous thread. I (and the rest of the RPS moderation) feel that the thread was closed with good reason, but the complaint in the Moderation thread actually sparked some rather interesting responses which I felt deserved it's own audience.
It is disappointing that the mods felt it necessary to clamp down upon my admittedly unbridled speculations. That young males are disproportionately involved in (which is not necessarily to say responsible for) many societal ills is a fact that, apparently, does not bear polite examination.
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23-02-2015, 06:18 PM #2
23-02-2015, 08:51 PM #3
Lethe fell foul of the incitement to communal hatred rule.Itsbastiat, Dawngate
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23-02-2015, 09:27 PM #4
Sad I missed it now, I like me a good half hour of hate.
23-02-2015, 09:56 PM #5
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Mosquito sound: The Game.
I managed to get to level 3. After that I don't hear anything. Supposedly you can use this sound to scare youngers, so if you have a shop and the youngers camp on the entrance, you can play this sound to make them go away somewhere else, to do drugs and make sex like rabits, no doubt.Abandoned PC gaming for good. Now rest in a better place. psn:Teikman
23-02-2015, 10:43 PM #6
23-02-2015, 10:50 PM #7
@Tei, probably your equipment: I can hear the vibration from them damn coils in the voltage regulation section of my motherboard and a lot of people older than me have similar trouble with other equipment, try any quiet computing forum.
I get up to 17 kHz in that video, and repeated the experiment using the tone generator in Audacity, getting up to 16 kHz. I doubt YT supports the sampling rate required for a 25 kHz tone though (Nyquist and all that), most cards support up to 48 kHz.
edit2: this one.
23-02-2015, 11:22 PM #8Supposedly you can use this sound to scare youngers, so if you have a shop and the youngers camp on the entrance, you can play this sound to make them go away somewhere else, to do drugs and make sex like rabits, no doubt.
I found a route by sneaking around the block entirely trough a path some kids had made trough the shrubs - It did make the midnight walks a lot more interesting.
23-02-2015, 11:26 PM #9
24-02-2015, 01:28 AM #10
You have to go back and look at your thesis if you wanna break into such a misbegotten topic as gender politics. If you start it by saying "men are good for nothing but lifting shit and getting into fights," yeah, people are going to (rightly) tell you to shut the fuck up, and nobody but you is to blame for such a hostile reaction, because it's exactly the sort of misandry misogynists really want to glom onto as the source of all their problems. That is not to say the topic itself cannot be broached, or that we cannot have a productive discussion about it. For instance, here is how I would have started discussion on such a topic:
SEXISM HURTS MEN TOO, A STORY BY NALANO™
Let's start by making a particularly controversial statement: The economic downturn hurts women more, as women on the whole have a more tenuous grasp on job security and career paths, but it devastates men's self-perceived social value. The reason I see this as happening is because of the ironically chivalrous and paternalist mantra that men must be the primary if not sole providers for their loved ones, and that if a man can't do such, that man has no value, no use, no pride and no face.
People do stupid shit when they're desperate, and I've seen more than a few fights start between hoods (/rats, /lums) over hyper-sensitivity to any perceived slight to their honor, character and pride because they mostly spend their days chasing after this or that hustle while living with their parents or extended families - no jobs, no futures, no achievable goals. When your status is relegated to something that low, everything becomes a major insult, every act potentially impugns whatever self-image you've built up, because society and its inherent biases said you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing.
All those stats about violence tend to correlate with stats about unemployment, and the young male demographic you sought to indict tend to be the hardest-hit when it comes to chronic unemployment. It's the same reason so many otherwise mild-mannered, educated men end up being suicide bombers: Because they simply fail to see a future for themselves, in a society that has deemed them useless and effectively disposable. One of the most positive correlations is that they're unemployed and unattached. See also street gangs in America - again it's unemployment, and the related loss of status which is unfortunately often seen as unachievable elsewhere for men.
There was a sociological study done in an Indian reservation over the disproportionate number of children diagnosed with mental illnesses (usually of the emotional type) in what were effectively some of the most desperately poor counties in America. Then, halfway through the study, tribal authorities got the right to build a casino if they distributed a portion of the profits to every family in the rez, and every family got an extra six grand a year - y'know, the exact sort of direct-cash payments social work agencies are extremely loathe to do. All of a sudden, half the children's mental illnesses disappeared.
Why? Because it took the crippling psychological burden off the providers, who were then able to parent more effectively - whether it's to be able to go out as a family more, to buy the children gifts during the holidays, or simply not have to worry about bills for a month. It made a world of difference, not only with the children but also with the health of the relationships of their parents. The primary stressor was removed, especially for the person whose perceived role it is to provide.
This very same issue has at times been misdirected against women as competitors in the job market (a flawed and wrong zero sum argument) and been decried by MRAs as the cause of a general feeling of emasculation: They are unable to meet the perceived gender role that has been imposed upon them, even if that role is outdated and flawed.
See? Now that's a way to point to a problem - sexism and gender roles - without indicting an entire fucking gender.
24-02-2015, 11:31 AM #11
Eh the world is shit. People will react to that irritably at times best to just forgive and forget rather than have the conversation over again.
24-02-2015, 12:46 PM #12
Originally Posted by Nalano
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24-02-2015, 01:33 PM #13
I pointed out that when economic times are hard, people tend to put off marriage later as marriage is at heart an economic contract; one that requires financial stability and independence. I made the argument that poor, young men run out when they knock women up because they're afraid of a commitment they cannot yet afford, and if they didn't view it as a yoke they could ill bear, they'd be more likely to stay put and do the right thing. He asked if I proposed that we as a society should pay men to be faithful. I replied that we pay men to be a host of many worse things than that.
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25-02-2015, 09:47 AM #19
Heya. I took the liberty of "liberating" these posts from the RPS moderation thread and giving them their own space, as I felt that some of the discussion raised here is rather interesting and would do far better in their own thread rather then in a thread that is usually reserved for grumblings.
25-02-2015, 10:49 AM #20
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Those horrible high pitched thingies are obnoxious and unpleasant, both in terms of their sound and what they represent. Perhaps the people installing them don't realize they are shouting HEY YOUNG PERSON WE HATE YOU at everyone who can hear them.
My parents once tried a similar device that was supposed to scare away cats. No cats were scared, but it gave me the most unpleasant summer ever.Irrelevant on further examination of the rest of the thread.