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    @ JG Man: Drive the awesome recent movie with Ryan Gosling? Or Drive the awesome 1998 kung fu flick with Mark Dacascascascos?

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    @Anthile: Have you tried the Arrow TV show? It is nothing mindblowing, but it is rather filled with DC fan service.

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    Drive the recent movie with Ryan Gosling.

    You know what, it felt like it was a video game.
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    Yeah I found Drive to be all style no substance which pretty much describes a lot of the directors movies which is a shame because there was good points in the film.

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    The Raid 2 : Berandal
    It's.. I don't know. It's longer I guess (2,5 hours). The fight is still fun to watch but there are a lot more talking in this one. I feel like they tried too hard to justify the fight scene and since now they are in open space (prison, clubs, streets, restaurant, kitchens, even trains) you can see people sort off running together in the background but they reached the protagonist one by one, I think I like more consistency in fighting scenes. There's even one scene where you can see people in the background strangling each other for some time while the protagonist is fighting on the foreground, it looks almost like a fight stage in Street Fighter. The last fighting scene is worth it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovac View Post
    In other news, Noah is censored here.
    What, they only show the realistic scenes?
    The credits, basically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xercies View Post
    Yeah I found Drive to be all style no substance which pretty much describes a lot of the directors movies which is a shame because there was good points in the film.
    But its got tonnes of style so I don't see a problem with it being a bit light on substance.
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    Just saw The Lavender Hill Mob with Alec Guinness. Great film, Guinness is brilliant and a joy to watch. Funny how a film can be both depressing and "feel good" at the same time.

    Finally got round to seeing Videodrome for the first time. Christ, what a train-wreck of a film. Funny how the theme relates perfectly to the internet and yet predates it.

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    The Fountain for the first time since 2006. Damn I'm old.
    I wonder where the 35 million dollars went. They spent 140k on (sometimes unconvincing) macro photography for all the special effects. And there are some minor digital effects. Then a couple of sets, more or less artificial-looking. Well, I actually like the artificial jungle. I guess the conquistador costumes are good looking.
    I don't understand Hollywood accounting. How much do they pay those actors? Weisz was Aronofsky's wife and Jackman is the only other A-list actor. There are like 4 other recognizable faces. It was shot with a single camera.
    What ate 35 million dollars? The catering? I know building the tree and a rig for the bubble ship were a pain in the ass, but it's a fake fucking tree.

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    Oops, I'm too sleepy at the time. I meant it was blocked. The censor group is a bit of an ass. They let a lot of things through but every once in awhile they blocked something cool. They said they're trying to avoid "controversy" (2012 comes to mind)

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    Just saw God Bless America which was fairly amusing with some good dialogue in places. Tho the social commentary felt a little predictable...
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    The Raid 2 is better than The Raid. Such a great set of movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillButNotBen View Post
    @Anthile: Have you tried the Arrow TV show? It is nothing mindblowing, but it is rather filled with DC fan service.
    Yeah, I heard it's not so bad. I might give it a shot soon.


    The Grandmaster
    The biopic on the life of Ip Man, legendary wing chun grandmaster and later teacher of Bruce Lee, directed by Wong Kar-wai. That sounds like a match made in heaven but sadly it doesn't quite work. Most of the film is set during the second Sino-Japanese wars (which also covers WW2) and not only does the film focus on Ip Man himself but also the Gong clan of martial artists with whom Ip Man actually doesn't have that much to do with. It's almost a completely different storyline and much more of a conservative martial arts plot. Basically, master is old, best pupil is good at martial arts but evil, daughter of master is good but not meant to inherit but does so anyway. And everybody was kung fu fighting.
    The problem is that these are essentially two stories in one movie and it's just way too short for both to develop properly (only about 130 minutes) and at times it feels that Ip Man is a side character in his own story. Sometimes side characters come and go without explanation and I still don't know who the guy called the Razor is. He has two major fight scenes! Maybe there's going to be some director's cut that adds an hour or two.
    Also, it absolute looks gorgeous, as one would expect when Wong Kar-wai is involved. It got nominated for a best cinematography and best costumes oscar both of which are well deserved.

    Kagemusha
    One of Kurosawa's last works, it's about a lowly criminal who barely escapes his execution because he has an uncanny resemblance to his liege lord, Takeda Shingen, who then employs him as a double hence the title (Kagemusha meaning shadow warrior, apparently the actual term used for doubles). When Shingen meets a rather awkward fate, hilarity ensues...
    Well, in many ways Kagemusha feels like a prelude to Ran. There's many of the same type of gorgeous shots and large battle scenes. One can only imagine how much effort went into that.
    Ran is about madness and futility, Kagemusha is almost equally pessimistic but it's about illusions and social constructs, semiotics if you want.
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    When I was first shown the excellent Planet Terror, one of the best things about it were the fake trailers before it. It was with a wish that Machete would come to be a reality. And then it did and I had heard mixed things and somehow found myself not watching it.

    And based on what I just watched, a ridiculous culmination of hackneyed dialogue, hammy over-acting, frankly absurd action and hilariously stupid props, I find most of my wish of the film being real to be justified. It's just stupid fun, where everyone involved was just being as stupid as possible to make something fun. I don't think it's without flaws though, as the pacing does seem a bit wibbly and the plot a bit heavy-handed, but overall it was entertaining. I think between it, Planet Terror and Death Proof, it's probably my least favourite, but I'm glad I watched it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xercies View Post
    Yeah I found Drive to be all style no substance which pretty much describes a lot of the directors movies which is a shame because there was good points in the film.
    My limited experience with Winding Refn's movies suggests I just don't get what he's trying to do. Valhalla Rising looked and sounded gorgeous but I thought it was a bloody awful film - badly written, badly paced, tone-deaf and unintentionally hilarious. Drive had two great central performances and a couple of very brief great action sequences but again, it just felt completely tonally wrong - it played, to me, as if Refn/the scriptwriter hated the novel and they were trying to take the piss out of it. The entire back half of the film was awful (the lift scene was pathetic), Ron Perlman's character was a joke, Brian Cranston was wasted - the Driver novels are nothing compared to James Sallis's other books but either one is still far, far better than the movie.
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    You guys should see the original film Drive took inspiration from.

    The Driver (1978) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077474/

    I have yet to see a movie with better car chases. The film itself has a very Brechtian take on the story and characters. No one has a name; everyone has a title. And the always awesome Bruce Dern is in it too.

    Remember the - hard as fuck - garage tutorial level from the first Driver game? A direct homage to a scene from this movie where The Driver shows of his skills to two crooks in an underground parking lot who nearly shit their pants as he drives around like a maniac.

    I'm really not kidding about how good the car chases/action scenes are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khaz View Post
    You guys should see the original film Drive took inspiration from.
    I am aware of it, and the fact that the game was also riffing on it (plus the fact it's widely considered a classic), but I've yet to see it. Then again there are a lot of films people tell me I ought to have seen that I haven't. I used to review movies and I've still never seen a single David Lynch film except Dune, to use the first example that comes to mind. I just don't respond well to people telling me I have to watch things because everyone says they're brilliant. :|

    Also to do with Drive/Driver, seriously, it's worth mentioning again - the book is so, so much better than the film. (The second book's way better than the film of the first one, too.) And they're still Sallis's weaker novels - I read the Kindle sample of Drive and originally thought it was rubbish... but I went back and picked it up when it was on sale, and once you accept some of the things he's trying to do they're pretty good for the most part. Seriously, there is nothing in the novels that plays like dumb comic relief, the plotting and pacing make a lot more dramatic sense, there's far more of a feeling of action rather than just a quirky character study/love story and again, the way Bryan Cranston is used in particular is a god damned travesty when you see how that character's supposed to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khaz View Post
    Remember the - hard as fuck - garage tutorial level from the first Driver game?
    You mean the only level in that game? For a while, at least. I did eventually finish it. The last mission was stupid hard too.
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    Not the first time i've heard that. :D

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    Probably gonna re-watch Street Fighter this weekend. Just read a great article describing what went wrong (basically everything) http://www.polygon.com/features/2014...hat-went-wrong

    Yeah, the movie has serious flaws and most of it is "so bad, it's good" if you are being VERY charitable. But, as a "grown up", I really like it for Raul Julia. The man was an amazing actor and he took a complete piece of poo-poo 100% seriously (as an actor. He totally hammed it up) and gave it his all. And it is really put in an even better light when you realize he knowingly signed up for a movie that would probably put a black mark at the end of his career because his kids loved the franchise and he wanted to get one more big payday before he died.
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