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    Netbook gaming: Collected advice, resources and links

    Ok, this has cropped up on the forums a fair few times. And there's a lot of advice spread over these forums.

    I spent 9 months last year on fieldwork in Kyiv with only a Samsung NC10, and so have a fair bit of experience with what works and what does not, and some specific advice for certain games. So thought I'd put this together.

    I'll keep it edited and updated as people suggest things. So please come forward with any suggestions, additions, corrections and game specific details.

    1. Operating system
    This will be one of the major impacts on what you can play. If you are thinking of buying a netbook and intend to game on it (or have one and are thinking of changing OS) then bear this in mind.


    For Google chrome OS, you're limited pretty much entirely to their 'webstore' (which actually includes a lot of ports of iOS games, so no real bad thing)
    https://chrome.google.com/webstore?c...=app%2F3-games

    For Linux, which will usually be a version of Ubuntu or maybe EeePCs own version, there are a range of games which run natively on Linux, and many which will run via DosBox for Dos compatible games and Wine for many windows games. See below for some more on wine


    Win XP is probably the easiest netbook platform for gaming. DosBox runs fine, and it's compatible by and large with many older windows games.

    Win 7 is just horrible for backwards compatability in many cases, but, you know, it's well fancy and pretty compared to XP...



    2. Screen resolution
    Probably the most important 'hardware' question. Beyond memory (you'll have enough) and integrated graphics card, the resolution of your screen will most detrmine the limits of what you can play.

    My netbook has a resolution of 1024x600, which is fairly common. 800x600 is common too. Then there are some really odd ones...


    The problem? Many games, even if they will run on your hardware, will not fit to 800x600. You'll have the bottom or top of the screen cut off.

    Many netbooks allow for screen scrolling, where you can pan around a screen of a higher resolution by moving the mouse pointer to the edge of the screen. If not natively, this can be done using some of the software linked below.


    This is annoying. At least I find it really annoying. Whilst mileage varying and so on, this is something to be very much aware of. Double check 800x600 is a possible resolution for any game (which will be the case for anything DOS usually)

    IF you get a game that requires 1024x800 as a min resolution, there may be solutions.

    Oddly enough, the best place for solutions to this (and to get 800x600 games using a full 1024x600) is the Widescreen Gaming Forum and the like. For whilst it's aimed at high resolutions, often the solutions will work for an arbitray given resolution. The games list is here:
    http://widescreengamingforum.com/mgl
    The forums are worth searching too.
    Try also:
    http://www.widescreengaming.net/wiki/Main_Page

    These aren't guaranteed, though. Case in point: Galactic Civilisations II allows for arbitrary resolutions via any ini tweak. but anything below 800 tall makes the UI unusable.

    Software which may help:
    Netbook Resolution CustomiserAllows for down and upscaling. This will squeeze 1024x800 down to 800x600 if needs be. May crash some games though. IntelGMA required.
    QuikRes Allows switching between resolutions from the tray. XP required.
    Windows 7 downscales natively with a registry tweak:
    http://www.netbooklive.com/how-to-ge...-netbook-2772/

    3. Mouse
    Get one, a cheap, small, wireless one. Even if you're not playing any FPS or similar games.
    Unless, of course, you have some kind of alien coordination that makes a trackpad seem like a perfectly normal input for a computer. You wierdo.

    4. Boost your hardware
    There's a range of options here (most aimed at windows)

    Overclocking tends to be Bad Idea (TM) on netbooks, as they lack and real ability to expel heat. But a modest 10-20% boost is within reason. No full details here as overclocking is always a fidlly business. So this is just some links to useful software and resources:

    Anything IntelAtom:
    SetFSB: Allows a range of tweaks of CPU parameters, useful for Overclocking.


    EeePCs:
    Eeectl: Designed just for EeePCs this provides a huge amount of 'under the hood' control.


    MSI Wind:
    1.09 BIOS Allows overclocking options in the BIOS (inc GPU) for MSI Wind netbooks


    Acer:
    A1ctl No overclcoking here, but some useful fan and resolution and memory functions.

    For IntelGMA graphics (you may have something by Nvidia, but unlikely):
    GMA Booster
    Incredibly nifty thing that ups the clocks on your GMA integrated GPU without any fiddling with the voltages. Very much Worth It.

    5. Flash gaming
    I thought I'd add something on this seperate from the rest.
    Flash is not limited just to browser games. Binding of Isaac, for example, is a flash game.
    The problem with flash games is that they utilise the CPU exclusivley, and often poorly. The GPU utilisation by Flash only gets used for video decoding, not 2D rendering.

    This often results in, unintuitvley, 2D games running worse than, say, a 3D game from 2002. Sometimes really, really poorly - it'll chug and stutter.

    Other browser plugins are often much better.

    For example, something that pushes flash's capabilities like The Last Stand may be unplayable, but full 3D Quake Live or a Unity game may be fine.

    You may see something that looks perfect for a netbook, but check it's not a Flash game first.
    Some Flash games run fine, others hardly at all. And it varies enormously depending on software and hardware configurations.

    6. Behind the Games
    Will probably be DosBox or Wine. Or even an emulator if that appeals. Or maybe some windows backwards compatability jiggery pokery.

    Often games can be made to run much, much better with a bit of specific tweaking of whatever they are running on. Some of this may be game specific, but there are some various things to bear in mind.

    Wine:
    apt-get if you can, else:
    http://www.winehq.org/download


    DLL overrides and graphics settings are likely to be the most common tweak:
    http://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-g...-DLL-OVERRIDES


    AppDb, a database of guides on different apps and games is the most useful first-point-of-call for Wine. Lots of games are documented here:
    http://appdb.winehq.org/

    DOSBox:
    Get it here
    And get a [url=http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/DOSBoxFrontends]Frontendp/url]
    A frontend allows for both a catalogue of games, for editing the conf file (which, yeah, can be done by hand I suppose...) and often comes with downloadable databases of game-specific configurations.
    D-Box is very pretty, but without a full set of options for tweaking. (Link in above)

    D-Fend (windows) of the multi-platform DBGL (links in above) are my favourites. D-Fend will even connect to a database of profiles and automatically add it to a recognised game. (However this is a bit hit and miss, you may have to tweak it yourself)

    The best places for game-specific DOSBox info are at:
    DOSBox games list
    DOSBox Wiki: Games
    Or search / ask at VOGONS fourms

    Old windows games, compatability and hyperthreading problems
    Will more likely run better on wine than Win 7...
    There's not much to say here in general, as many fixes are games-specific.

    But the usual Right click the .exe -> Properties -> Compatability -> 'Run as admin', 'Run in compatability mode for' and 'Disable visual themes'
    Is the best place to start.

    One thing that does appear often are games that fall apart in a multi-thread environment.
    This is the Task Manager -> Right Click -> 'Set affinity' solution you're probably familiar with.
    If this is a problem for the game you want to run, this can be done permanently in XP, Vista and Win 7 by following:
    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/
    OR this can be done permanently by editing the .exe file itself by downloading and using the command-line program imagecfg:
    http://www.robpol86.com/index.php/ImageCFG
    (Backup the original, obv.)

    Emulators
    Other than DOS or windows...
    Just a list for reference:
    ScummVMFor old adventure games
    And
    The Emulator Zone

    7. Games and where to get them
    First off, aim high! Anything more than 4 years old will probably be ok... As long as resolution is not a problem...
    Whilst a lot of the above relates to older games, but you'd be surprised what will run on a netbook.
    My NC10 had no problem with KotOR one and two (minus a bit of slow down in really busy areas)
    Some source games (HL2, Portal) may also be fine. Gothic 11, Morrowind (with extra low settings) and hitman 2 are fine.
    So no -need- to go for the ancient games.

    For the NC10 there's a list here:
    http://www.sammywiki.com/wiki/Samsun...%28N-Series%29
    Other netbooks may have their own lists.

    That being said, half the point of gaming on a netbook is an excuse to play classics again (or for the first times)

    I'll get around to a list of suggestions and game-specific tweaks later. For now, the obvious starting place is, of course, gog.com...
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    Thanks for this resource Cooper. Saw it when you first posted it, but didn't think it was relevant. Now my dad is trying to convince me not to take my proper laptop, and he'll buy me a netbook instead (you plan to go away for 10 months and your parents start trying to throw money at you).

    If we end up buying a netbook tonight I'll come back and post the specs in case you can give some more specific advice, but yeah, I'll probably just use it as an excuse to delve more deeply into GoG's catalogue, and I'll also see which recent Indie games I've bought might run on it.

    ETA: Completely off-topic, but I'll be in Kyiv soon (as long as we can get our visas sorted out in time) for 4 days to go on a tour of Chernobyl - anything else you recommend?
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    Great resource Cooper.

    I started the last Netbook thread on here and I think you may be selling the netbook short. I've been using an Aspire One 522 almost exclusively for two months now (~3 hours travelling by train four times a week) and I'm amazed at what mine can cope with. Most notably I've had Dragon Age Origins running at a steady speed of about 25-30 fps.

    For me the bottom line is "DO NOT GET AN INTERGRATED GRAPHICS CARD". It really makes a huge difference having a dedicated GPU and you won't have to worry about the slew of games that don't work with intergrated GPUs. Another point to remember is that 7 Starter always comes with just 1gb ram, which is a bit pathetic to be honest. Theres some incredibly long load times for games that run perfectly once they've actually started. So either look for a 7 laptop with upgradable memory (like the AO 522) or buy a linux one with two gigs and install 7 Starter. Ram uprgrades are pretty cheap, about £10 for 2gb, so I'll be getting one when my three month warranty runs out.

    Is it alright with you if I add a link to this post at the end of mine?
    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/foru...netbook+gaming
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    I assumed all netbooks would have integrated graphics, seeing as they are so much smaller, and it seems like only recently that dedicated GPUs in notebooks became common, and not just dedicated to gaming laptops.

    The one I have on order for my travels has integrated graphics, but it's alright. I think it'll still run Terraria and some of the other indie games I've picked up lately, but at the very least... GOG.
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    Well Netbooks have definitely jumped in quality the past year or so. I guess they're competing against the tablet fad but the number of people I see everyday having to plug in a portable keyboard in order to use their iPad is making me question their longevity.

    On topic I'd heartily recommend the AO 522 to anyone who asks about a portable gaming pc. It's not much weaker than a decent gaming laptop, is about a third the wieght and a fifth the price. It also has a battery that lasts 3-4 hours at highish strain or around 8 if you're just typing so unlike a high end laptop it's actually portable.

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    Hi

    I need help!
    I would like to keep using Civilization 3 on my new netbook (acer aspire one 722 - windows 7).
    On my last one (acer aspire one 751 - windows Xp) it was running fine.
    I tried to install with the Win Xp compatibility set, but I unable to use it.
    When I run it it just quit after few second?
    Thans

    Massimiliano

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