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    Hey! Is L.A. Noire Really Rated "M" for Mature?!

    Shouldn't it be rated "AO" as for Adult Only?

    In the game I finished all cases in traffic division and happily got promoted to homicide division (I hope that in real world I can also be promoted for my good work. The reality? Always someone jumps out to take away my credit and they get promoted, sigh.). I guess the game is way out of the line and I dont want to hide any text just to avoid spoiler.

    This is the first case from the homicide division. Once being assigned a case of murder, the first task, unsurprisingly, was to investigate the crime scene while the victim's body was still there waiting to be examined before before delivered to autopsy. Once I got there, what the...... The body was a naked woman with so many apparently wounds, obviously being beaten to death!! What the hell is that? I almost vomited my Christmas dinner out!!

    I dont know about video game censorship in western countries, and I dont know why there is no warning over the package for such offending content.

    If you are going to play this game, you have been warned. Damn, I thought I am going to enjoy this great game. It played so well until I reach this part.

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    What's the difference between "Mature" and "Adult"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man-E-Faces View Post
    What's the difference between "Mature" and "Adult"?
    I am actually not an American. However all games sold here follow the US censorship system. As I know, in the US, exhibiting games rated AO to underaged is a criminal offense.

    And for M games, well, one of my friends once shared with me an online experience of Gears of War 1. He said he once voice chatted with an extraordinarily great player, who, with his kiddy voice, told my friend he was seven.

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    What the hell is that?
    A crime scene Phelps. Pull yourself together. I thought you were in the marines son, or did they have you driving a desk whilst the rest of them were knee deep in Jap guts? Now find me that killer and find them fast, before they strike again.
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    Yeh I know you are not American. :) Just saying a movie like Silence of the Lambs showed a female disfigured body, it wasn't rated NC-17 just plain ol' R. Context has something to do with it, you are investigating a homicide, being the type of game it is they want to add a wee bit of realism to the crime also and not just leave it to the facial expressions. :)

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    Man, you got off lightly. What if the game depicted mutually-enjoyable, consensual sex?? Or (*gasp*) someone used the word 'cunt'???

    (Note: I should probably be clear that the above was sarcasm. I haven't played LA Noire, but I agree that the classification system for games, movies, TV etc. is ridiculous. It seems to express an insane system of morality in which sex is bad and dirty and corrupting, regardless of context and detail; course language is extremely dangerous; and horrific violence is really not that big a deal.)

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    Squirrel my man I know exactly wot you're talking about man! That scene made me ruin my dinner too. I mean I tried to scoop away the cum but there was just too much. Ah well there goes the turkey. Then again it gives me an excuse to get another live turkey to play with. Can't wait to dissect another one of those. :)

    Merry Xmas btw.

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    In America, the only thing that seems to get you the AO rating is actively showing sex, ala pornography.

    Extreme amounts of violence doesn't get you the AO rating, just an M. Neither does language, from what I recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squirrel View Post
    The body was a naked woman with so many apparently wounds, obviously being beaten to death!! What the hell is that? I almost vomited my Christmas dinner out!!

    I dont know about video game censorship in western countries, and I dont know why there is no warning over the package for such offending content.

    If you are going to play this game, you have been warned. Damn, I thought I am going to enjoy this great game. It played so well until I reach this part.
    Okay, so here's the back of the box: link

    Stuff that jumps out at me:
    "A dark and violent crime thriller"
    "17+, Blood and Gore, Nudity, Sexual Themes, Violence"

    Here's the ESRB explaining the content and their rating: http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31003

    I had to verify my age to even look at the game on Steam, and the first thing I see is that huge ESRB ratings box again when the trailer starts, and a big BBFC '18' sticker on the right.

    So, you weren't paying attention! This is no worse than what you'd see in an R-rated movie.
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    You almost
    vomited because of a video-game,jeez man :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roufuss View Post
    In America, the only thing that seems to get you the AO rating is actively showing sex, ala pornography.

    Extreme amounts of violence doesn't get you the AO rating, just an M. Neither does language, from what I recall.
    I believe I once heard that violence against children could get you an AO rating, which is why kids are invulnerable in so many games (although DX:IW let you kill children, and that wasn't AO, so I'm not sure about this).

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    I've never really understood the American rating system. Mature AND Adults Only? What's the point of that?

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    Welcome to America, I can buy a game where I eviscerate people's organs with all manner of weapons and laugh maniacally as the tiny pieces of their life plop down from the bloody mess on the walls around them, but if I'm shown a nipple suggestively I'm crossing the line and need to be protected from this heinous evil with an adults only porn rating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squirrel View Post
    I am actually not an American. However all games sold here follow the US censorship system. As I know, in the US, exhibiting games rated AO to underaged is a criminal offense.
    Not trying to derail the thread, but this isn't true (I am a US citizen, incidentally). The rating system for games here, like that for movies, is a voluntary program enacted by the industry - it has no legal basis.

    Individual states, counties, even towns can enact legal prohibitions against selling offensive materials ("offensive" being defined differently in different places), either at all or just to minors. In most places, it is illegal to sell pornography to a minor, for example. But that's not actually related to the game rating system. And, in fact, state-level attempts to make selling M-rated games to minors a criminal offense have repeatedly been struck down by the courts over the years as such laws are considered to violate 1st Amendment protections (in a conflict between federal law and state/county/city law, federal law wins).

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    It's a pretty shit game so I wouldn't worry about missing out on anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalSignalX View Post
    Welcome to America, I can buy a game where I eviscerate people's organs with all manner of weapons and laugh maniacally as the tiny pieces of their life plop down from the bloody mess on the walls around them, but if I'm shown a nipple suggestively I'm crossing the line and need to be protected from this heinous evil with an adults only porn rating.
    Alternatively, welcome to Australia where anything "promoting" violence, drug use, or sex is censored to hell and back. L4D2 is too violent. Duke Nukem Forever? No worries, mate!

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    Actually my concern is absolutely nothing to do with sexual content, at least that's not I am referring to. Frankly, normal people would simply lose all the apettite after seeing those images. It's the extreme horrific yet realistic images of cropses that gamers should be warned ahead. I would rather consider those to be even more horrific than images you see on games like Dead Space, because I cannot associate those images with anything realistic.

    And damn, it's not just the first case of homicide division assignments. Seems the whole homicide division works are all about catching that Werewolf. I dont know if I have to give up on this game.

    And I dont know why I always have the fear the dead woman would suddenly open her eyes, jump up and bite me. I have been playing too much Biohazard I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckaluphagus View Post
    Not trying to derail the thread, but this isn't true (I am a US citizen, incidentally). The rating system for games here, like that for movies, is a voluntary program enacted by the industry - it has no legal basis.
    No, but some retailers (like Walmart) categorically refuse to carry games with certain ratings, just like how most commercial theaters with outright ban X and NC-17-rated movies, regardless of their artistic merit. With that kind of self-censorship, laws become superfluous.

    At any rate, the dead woman, Squirrel, isn't titillating. If she were, or if she were tortured and beaten on-screen, you'd have an AO rating.

    Quote Originally Posted by squirrel View Post
    Frankly, normal people would simply lose all the appetite after seeing those images.
    Good. You're not supposed to like picking over homicide victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    Good. You're not supposed to like picking over homicide victims.
    The problem is, you cannot skip the examining part, because you need the clues later on.

    And it's really not the nudity that's the issue. It's that disfigured face that gives people bad dreams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squirrel View Post
    The problem is, you cannot skip the examining part, because you need the clues later on.

    And it's really not the nudity that's the issue. It's that disfigured face that gives people bad dreams.
    You're a homicide detective. Why would you be able to skip examining homicide victims?
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