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    Best Games Nobody played

    Start a list of games that you thought were excellent but that nobody seemed to play.

    The first for the list is the Kohan series.

    Kohan was a really different RTS mechanically with a very novel resource system, but what set it apart was their until mechanics. In their system each unit was actually a combination of three or four troops. When you built a "unit" in Kohan you would select the front line (four troops), two supporting units, and a commander. This made for some great tactical decision making.

    On top of that the units had three movement modes that you had to consider while playing. Column settingmovement was fast, but reduced your defense and offense if attacks, then there was the average setting for moderate movement and no combat bonus or penalty, and the slow moving assault configuration. The trick was that when your forces were attacked they would retaliate without your order, the only way to break off the attack was to order retreat.

    All in all it added up to a wonderfully nuanced RTS whose solo large maps were some of the most fun I have ever had in a RTS. The maps could take HOURS to win due to the heavy focus on tactics that their troop system created. You could build the most massive and unstoppable army and send it on it's slow march towards an enemy castle, but if you weren't careful your enemy would simply build an equally large number of light cavalry (much more cheaply) and race around you unseen and devastate your flank and your support troops, thereby forcing a retreat on your part.

    The maps themselves were somewhat plain, but offered lost of terrain to exploit the games strengths. Building a fort network in a mountain pass gave you some sense of security, while marching your army across a large open field, surrounded by fog of war was a nail biter.. you could be on the verge of a flank attack, or stumble onto a monster cave with a very unfriendly and deadly dragon ready to destroy you.... or be defeated and give up it's gold and other treasures (like special troop unlocks)

    I wasn't a fan of Kohan 2 because they tried to make the game more fast paced then it should have been, but the first game is still great and amazingly fun in multiplayer. It's on Steam and well worth the $10.00.

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    Kohan is the game I keep pointing people to when they ask me why I don't like modern RTS (DoW 1 + 2 are okay-ish, and I do have a big soft spot for RUSE). It's because it had been done already, with better mechanics and a focus on actual STRATEGY. Building bases (upgrading the limited spaces in villages) is a STRATEGIC decision. Unit placement is not about who can click more times than anyone else, but about what you do with your limited resources.

    It's a beautiful game, especially with the first expansions which removes the map-design weakness of the initial vanilla game.

    It also had one of the best early random map generators.


    So much love for Kohan! (Sorry, I had to prove you wrong that noone played this. :P)



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    Great games no-one played: ..... actually, I am drawing a blank, considering the amount of niche-people I know. I would have went with Anachronox, but I am sure that most RPS'lers celebrated it's 10th anniversary earlier this year with a rewatch of Anachronox - The Movie the same as me. Right, guys? .... guys? Anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexing Vision View Post
    So much love for Kohan! (Sorry, I had to prove you wrong that noone played this. :P)

    DRAT!! Or YAY! ... I dunno...

    I think I am going to throw money at steam and get these games again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jryan View Post
    DRAT!! Or YAY! ... I dunno...
    To be fair I always thought Kohan was fairly popular when it was released. Certainly everyone I know loved it. Warrior Kings on the other hand got overlooked despite being bloody amazing.

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    Freespace 2. Its probably "THE" shooting spaceships in space game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    Freespace 2. Its probably "THE" shooting spaceships in space game.
    Freespace 2 is awesome, although I wouldn't say that not many people played it. But maybe I'm mistaken, just because I played it a bunch back in the day doesn't mean everyone else did.

    Now, how to actually contribute to the thread... Hmm... Psychonauts comes to mind as a game everyone seems to know about but no one actually played. Which is a shame, since it's really great! Or so they say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ado View Post
    Freespace 2 is awesome, although I wouldn't say that not many people played it. But maybe I'm mistaken, just because I played it a bunch back in the day doesn't mean everyone else did.

    Now, how to actually contribute to the thread... Hmm... Psychonauts comes to mind as a game everyone seems to know about but no one actually played. Which is a shame, since it's really great! Or so they say.
    100,000 copies sold is not all that much, even at the time. It was hardly advertised. I honestly think it would be remembered better if more people had plyaed it.

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    Played and loved Kohan 2- well worth the £3 I paid for it. Fun units and gameplay.

    Tried the demo of Ahriman's Gift and liked it too. Should I go for it and Immortal Sovereigns?

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    I think so, obviously. The first two games play much slower and more deliberate. The only real difference other than that is that they don't separate the race and faction like they do in the sequel.

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    Lead & Gold - Gangs of the Wild West

    It's not actually that bad. Think TF2 with fewer classes, fewer maps, less support and no sense of humour, but a killer soundtrack and a footprint on your HDD that's 10% of what TF2 has. It's rough around the edges, its community is nearly dead, but I think it has a charm about it that few games have. It's quite funny to shoot hats off the heads of other players

    Oh, and it's a MP shooter with an average-looking female character. That means it gets +1 from me regardless of its quality.


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    I forgot about that game, UnravThreads, they should really rescue it from obscurity by going f2p.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashbox View Post
    I forgot about that game, UnravThreads, they should really rescue it from obscurity by going f2p.
    I don't think there's anything they can do to it to make it F2P. It's cheap enough as it is, often hitting £1-2 in sales, and there's not actually a lot there that can be parcelled off as paid-for content.


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    @jyran

    I've been tempted to buy the Kohan games on Steam myself.

    Is there any point getting the first game or should I just buy the stand-alone expansion (Arihman's Gift)?

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    There.com - an interactive chat sandbox / MMO / creative outlet that was the seed for Second Life and all that came after. You could just sit around and talk, play dress up dolls, race, play with various world physics, import your own objects, and make real world money. It was never as raunchy as SL and had a much better UI. The biggest technical problem was a really horrible back-end that would force users to accumulate easily over 10,000 separate files to load in and out of memory, slamming all but the most diabolical gaming rigs to a crawl after hours of play. Also the creative team really didn't have a clear direction for it, and the games "purpose" wandered a bit.
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    I also played Kohan (the original)- I don't remember it too well (I was somewhat young at the time), but I do remember enjoying it!

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    space rangers 2, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider Jerusalem View Post
    space rangers 2, of course.
    First game I thought of, too.

    As for Freespace 2: I think a lot of people played it, just not at/near release. Probably partially due to the magnificent Freespace Source Code Project, the various amazing mods, and the fact that it's mentioned in nearly every discussion regarding space shooters. Take a look at GOG's "bestselling" page. It's doing fairly well on GOG!

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    Came here to mention Lead and Gold as well. Doesn't have as much meat on its bones as others in the genre, but it's a fun little number if you can wrangle up enough people to play together.

    I'm tempted to suggest Blur, but I think it may have had an okay-ish number of people pick it up. Unfortunately it was not enough to save Bizarre Creations. Probably one of the funnest racers I've played in the last few years. Lots of challenges, things to unlock, and it was nice to have combat in the races without the game being a Mario Kart clone, or Wipeout game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider Jerusalem View Post
    space rangers 2, of course.
    yeah i do agree..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider Jerusalem View Post
    space rangers 2, of course.
    Loved that little gem.

    Rise of Nations: Legends. The first part of the campaign was very good.

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