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    The Real Origin of 'DotA' circa 1998



    This game is so badass, the campaign degenerated in the last third, but its one of my all time favourites.

    Does anyone have anything further back for DotA ancestors?
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    That might be the best game briefing I have ever watched. Oh, the things I missed out on by being so young...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny252 View Post
    That might be the best game briefing I have ever watched. Oh, the things I missed out on by being so young...
    http://download.cnet.com/Future-Cop-...-10023607.html
    It still holds up, gog.com really needs to sell this, it was EA so its possible

    edit: better host..
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    Interesting(?) tidbit: this was originally going to be Future Strike, the sequel to Nuclear Strike. I remember watching the teaser for it and, years later, wondering what the hell became of the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliocentric View Post
    Is this a demo, or the full game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliocentric View Post
    http://download.cnet.com/Future-Cop-...-10023607.html
    It still holds up, gog.com really needs to sell this, it was EA so its possible

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    This, and while we're at it, it would be super if EA also slapped The Immortal up there. =D

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    Ha, awesome video.

    I vaguely remember this game from my youth, I suspect I may have played the demo or something. Never realised it had such a complex multi-player mode though. Does it actually stand-up these days?

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    Oh god, I had some jolly good time with this. It actually had split-screen functionality on PC, so that's not a video gimmick up there.

    Shit, wait, what, I'm 26, am I old?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliocentric View Post
    Does anyone have anything further back for DotA ancestors?
    Herzog Zwei, for obvious reasons.


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    Oh my fucking god you brilliant brilliant man, I was only thinking about that game a few days ago but couldn't remember the name. Loved everything about it. The campaign for a naive child was fantastic with lots of nasty weapons to unleash oh crims. Multiplayer was even better and god it was just so addictive.

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    It's only a demo, no piracy here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistabashi View Post
    Never realised it had such a complex multi-player mode though. Does it actually stand-up these days?
    Online coop (you might need hamachi these days) as well. The it very much stands up, I never tested it on win 7 but it was buttery smooth on xp. The single and coop are the same thing, smash tv meets freeroam. The versus could be released today and be totally relevant as a stand alone.

    It's a game which should be part of everyone's gaming history, even if it's hardly a revolution now.
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    Well, since DOTA is a rpg.

    this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure

    1976

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tei View Post
    Well, since DOTA is a rpg.

    this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure

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    What are you on about and how is that relevant to anything? This is the strangest post I've ever read on here.

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    He is said to appear when you say RPG three times in a mirror. God help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizardry View Post
    What are you on about and how is that relevant to anything? This is the strangest post I've ever read on here.
    I just left this here.



    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/MMO...pot,12931.html


    Heres a screenshot:
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    sry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tei View Post
    I just left this here.
    You sir, are an artist.
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    Wizardy is a cool dude, and I like a lot of his posts. Sorry about the trolling.

    Now all this has made my head hurts, because of the laughing.

    @Wizardry: Everybody knows you have a strict definition of RPG's, but that your definition. Everybody else can have his own definitions, so you should not act surprised if different people do things like saying DOTA has RPG elements (of hack and slash flavour).

    Now, is true that also have RTS elements. Is a hybrid. The roots can be tracked back by the RTS line or by the RPG line, and If you follow the RPG line, theres a number of "mud"-like games for mainframes like the PDP11, that are the origin of the CRPG games, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tei View Post
    The roots can be tracked back by the RTS line or by the RPG line, and If you follow the RPG line, theres a number of "mud"-like games for mainframes like the PDP11, that are the origin of the CRPG games, IMHO.
    No? CRPGs pre-date text adventures and muds. This was available in 1975:



    In comparison, this is Colossal Cave Adventure:


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