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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    What?! It's nothing like that. It's more like you learning - after 25 years - that your high school sweetheart got married and popped out some ugly kids whilst she kept dressing as if it were still the mid-80s.
    Is that better or worse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliocentric View Post
    Is that better or worse?
    Yes. Yes it is.


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    Looks like somebody needed some quick money. Oh well.
    to wound the autumnal city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthile View Post
    Looks like somebody needed some quick money. Oh well.
    I don't think DC need quick money at all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I don't think DC need quick money at all.
    Well then they wanted quick money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    Well then they wanted quick money.
    It's also hardly quick money if they've largely taken creators off projects for a year or so - as I think the situation's been.

    It's money that's there to be made in what is the 25th anniversary of the last issues of Watchmen and its completion. Can't blame or fault them for that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Can't blame or fault them for that.
    Sure you can, because it's a cash grab and not, say, a legitimate creative project. You make something because there's something you want to say, not because market research said it's a good time to sell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    I'm going to be zany and decide whether or not I like them after I've read them.
    There's always one.
    ...common and uninteresting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    a legitimate creative project.
    Because DC and Marvel are known for such things, amirite?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    DC are giving the market what it's been asking for since it came out - prequels.
    A useful demonstration of the flaws in the free market. It's not what anyones been asking for but its what you've got to choose from

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theblazeuk View Post
    A useful demonstration of the flaws in the free market. It's not what anyones been asking for but its what you've got to choose from
    How do you know no-one's been asking for it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Because DC and Marvel are known for such things, amirite?
    And we wonder why Alan Moore was always so bitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    And we wonder why Alan Moore was always so bitter.
    Alan Moore's just frakking weird. He'd complain about the day/night cycle if anyone bothered to ask him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Alan Moore's just frakking weird. He'd complain about the day/night cycle if anyone bothered to ask him.
    He's only weird in the way that Bill Watterson is weird: He refuses to adulterate his work based on the whims of the market.

    And more power to him.
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    I think this is not about writting a real Watchmen comic, but about using the popularity and quality of Watchmen to make some quick money. (and I am not necesarrily against that, I am just not interested if the quality is not here).

    Here:
    "Neither writer Alan Moore nor artist Dave Gibbons will be involved in the prequels, to be collectively referred to as Before Watchmen."

    Thats a very big hole to fill here. Alan More adds this pseudophilosophy that make the comic have weight and deep. Dave Gibbons have a pragmatical style, that make the whole thing almost documentary but using comic language. Its hard to think it can work other way, anyway I will be happy to be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    He's only weird in the way that Bill Watterson is weird: He refuses to adulterate his work based on the whims of the market.

    And more power to him.
    Adulterate his work? Right... Who's the one who's had at least three films done based on works they've produced? Who's the one who uses characters not (wholly) created by himself? He's really not in the best position to moan.

    Dave Gibbons, to counter Tei, has given this his blessing, and on top of that DC have taken some of the better talent (or at least more notable) for this project.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Adulterate his work? Right... Who's the one who's had at least three films done based on works they've produced?
    And refused to put his name on them. He didn't authorize those works, and vehemently distanced himself from all of them. Many, many times has he said no to the very idea.

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    Who's the one who uses characters not (wholly) created by himself?
    Everybody. Everybody in the history of all mankind. Nobody creates in a vacuum.

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    and on top of that DC have taken some of the better talent (or at least more notable) for this project.
    "All-star cast" is not the same as "great work." To use a recent example, what's the biggest criticism of Kingdom of Amalur, despite the accolades of its project leads? That it's uninspired and built-by-committee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Adulterate his work? Right... Who's the one who's had at least three films done based on works they've produced? Who's the one who uses characters not (wholly) created by himself? He's really not in the best position to moan.
    Let me rephrase that for you:
    Quote Originally Posted by Althea
    I don't know shit about Alan Moore, and I'm simply here to play Devil's advocate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabrage View Post
    Let me rephrase that for you:
    Stop making me the nice one. But really, Moore's a textbook case of what happens when you don't own the rights to your own creative works.
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    I don't fully buy this idea about new content not changing old content. It doesn't change it, but it can change it's context, it's uniqueness, it's image/reputation and a number of other things. All of these affect how we respond to a piece of work. The Mona Lisa wouldn't be a world renowned work of art if it was part of a 20 painting series with different facial expressions and hair colors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I don't know shit about Alan Moore, and I'm simply here to play Devil's advocate.
    Coming to this thread it sure seems that way. (and in every other thread I'd read today.) I'll test: the sky is blue.

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