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    Radioaltimeter Pitottube Simulator - Let's play flightsims!

    This thread is for the discussion of flightsimulators and all that comes with it(controls, manuals, frustration etc) and the organization of the playing is said simulators.

    If you are simcurious there are many options right now that allow you to experience your first inevitable crash in a free 2 play way.

    Let's start with a list of Free to play simulators:

    Flight Gear, opensource, free, civilian: http://www.flightgear.org/
    DCS World, free(2 planes), combat Modern, extra planes can be bought, also on steam: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.co...rld/dcs_world/
    Rise of Flight, free(2 planes), combat WWI, extra planes can be bought, also on steam:
    http://riseofflight.com/en

    Falcon 4 inspired games:
    OpenFalcon(Requires Falcon 4: Allied Force): http://www.thommos.com/wiki/index.php?title=Open_Falcon
    FreeFalcon(Requires nothing): http://freefalcon.org/index/
    BMS 4.32(Requires original Falcon 4 Binary): http://wiki.hoggit.us/view/Falcon_BMS_Setup

    Bms is a bit tricky, Open Falcon and Free Falcon seemed to have a shared origin but also some sort of human conflict that caused a split. It's been a while since I've dabbled in The Falcon* series.

    List will be updated as we go along.

    So what else should this post include? Controller section? Profiles, manuals etc?

    Guides/Manuals

    This section is reserved for guides/video's, VID refers to a video, MN to a text/image manual, and APP refers to mobile phone applications that often contain references or instrument display's etc.

    DCS World:

    DCS: Massive Theater Map
    MN: Official Wiki
    APP: DCS World Encyclopedia
    APP: DCS Manager
    APP: DCS Virtual Cockpit

    A-10C
    VID: A-10C weapon deployment - On The Range series
    MN: Lobo's A-10C QRH & Checklist

    Kamov KA-50 Black Shark 2
    VID: Kamov KA-50 start sequence Annoted

    Flight Gear(FG):
    APP: Flightgear PFD
    APP: Flightgear NAV
    APP: Flightgear MAP
    APP: Comete Flightgear Wireless Control
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    As I was looking up the FG link for the main post I came across this:

    http://www.flightgear.org/tours/the-f-14b-is-back/

    With beautiful shot like this:





    FG is starting to look like a cross between Flightsimulator 2004 and FSX, especially with the 3.2 version recently released.
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    Regarding DCS there are some good video tutorials on Youtube that could be listed as well. I know that some of them have helped me a great deal with some of the more esoteric stuff when it comes to delivering bombs and Mavericks competently.

    But it might be outside of the scope of the thread?
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    Sounds like a good idea Stellar Duck, I see no problem with including them in this thread. I myself happend to run into questions concerning the A-10C quite often so it's nice if you can just ask eachother here. Video's are a great way to support that.
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    Oh, yes.

    I'd love for a place on these forums where I could come with all the assorted questions that always pop up when I'm trying to learn the A-10C.

    A guy called Bunyap Sims has a series on YT called On the Range that I've found a good source of information and tips and tricks. He does focus a lot on the avionics and weapons systems side of things but there is some stuff in there focused on just flight as well.
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    Awesome, added them to the list!

    Great link as well, I'm just about to get ready to learn proper weapon employment. I can now fly the A-10C in any weather and got the AP figured out. This week I've been flying without EAC on and really, that makes a whole lot of difference.

    So, if you are starting out, make sure the annunciator panel is black when you are about to depart, also dont forget to turn on the Pitot Tube switch if you fly in the winter or in cold weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pepper View Post

    So, if you are starting out, make sure the annunciator panel is black when you are about to depart, also dont forget to turn on the Pitot Tube switch if you fly in the winter or in cold weather.
    Or at high altitude.

    That's my most common mistake, actually. I've learned to not deviate from my checklist and not to skim read it. Always do all the items on it. Even if it seems tedious.
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    That's pretty much it yeah, I always turn the pitot tube heating when at the runway threshold, it cant overheat at that point unless hold up, and I dont always have time to set it after takeoff depending on the conditions.

    Have you tried using the HARS/Erect system? I've been wondering if it works sufficiently in a emergency.
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    I've not really messed with the HARS system yet but it's on my todo list. I'm currently not feeling sure enough about myself when using EGI so I want that nailed down before messing with HARS.

    Edit: I see you also added manuals to the original post. Might be that check lists could be a good resource as well. Personally I've got a bunch by now and have been alternating so as to find the one I work with the best. I've so far settled for this one and it also includes handy stuff like a list of air fields with frequencies, ILS ditto, TACAN and elevation and runway headings. It also has a nifty list of engagement ranges for the various AA units and a good overview of the various weapons and what's what.
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    Excellent resource, I have also added some of the application that I use on my mobile phone and also work on tablets.
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    Hang on. Isn't Flight Gear the one that sometimes gets taken and used in various shitty scams? Or am I thinking of something else? In any case, I could swear that's the case so a word of caution might be an idea?
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    Well, yeah some dodgy people download and resell Flightgear, it's a legit opensource simulator though which you can aquire via their website. The Applications work fine as well, nothing wrong with it. Frankly, the scammers wouldnt bother with building such apps anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pepper View Post
    Well, yeah some dodgy people download and resell Flightgear, it's a legit opensource simulator though which you can aquire via their website. The Applications work fine as well, nothing wrong with it. Frankly, the scammers wouldnt bother with building such apps anyway.
    Oh, didn't mean to imply FG was the scam, just that some used it for scams, given its open source nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellar Duck View Post
    Oh, didn't mean to imply FG was the scam, just that some used it for scams, given its open source nature.
    Aaah alright, yep watch out, grab the binaries from the official site or repository!
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    New ROF update, adding mouse control -

    Dear pilots,

    Today we’re deploying one of the most technologically significant updates for Rise of Flight. Along with an enhanced user interface, we have added the Mouse Control option. This system was earlier tested within the ILYA Muromets project, and now, after a series of improvements it is coming to Rise of Flight. The testing employed experienced virtual pilots as well as players who are used to a traditional keyboard+mouse set up. Thanks to their assistance, and using our own flight sim experience we created what we believe is the most honest mouse control system in a flight-sim product.


    We say “honest” because in the updated ROF a mouse is nothing but an input device, a new additional type of controller, but not an overly automated virtual assistant that cheats. It’s simply an opportunity for you to play a game you have an interest in even though you don’t have specific controllers for it such as joysticks and pedals.


    While working on this system and transferring the general control functionality to the mouse, we haven’t touched the flight models or brought changes to the game world’s physics. Thus, Rise of Flight as you’ve known and loved for almost 6 years remains the same. Furthermore, it’s becoming more open and friendly to players who have an interest in WWI aviation and have no joystick - yet. .


    So, before the new version goes public we’d like to appeal to players whose first experience in Rise of Flight will be with the mouse control option. Flying a plane using all of its technical capabilities, taking down strong and skilled opponents and having a true sensation of flight is only possible when using the dedicated game controllers such as a joystick and pedals. The PC mouse simply was never designed to be a flight sim device so it has its limitations. Nevertheless, we’re giving it a solid chance to take you high in the magnificent endless sky of Rise of Flight.
    Also a dedicated server option to reduce dispersion/overheat effects from guns. IIRC ROF actually used to have uncannily accurate guns (to the point where people who were very good could ping a pilot from around 300-500+ regularly), then they changed it massively and started accurately simulating the simple synchronisation systems of the time, and increased dispersion a lot. But I'm guessing that doesn't work at all well with a mouse.

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    I suppose so yes, it does sounds very interesting. Time to fire up the good ol' ROF again!
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    Since some people were annoyed at missing the last one - another DCS World sale:

    http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/

    DCS: F-86F Sabre: $49.99 to $14.99 (70% off)
    DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora: $49.99 to $14.99 (70% off)
    DCS: Bf 109 K-4: $49.99 to $14.99 (70% off)
    DCS: UH-1H Huey: $49.99 to $14.99 (70% off)
    DCS: Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight: 49.99 to $14.99 (70% off)
    DCS: Flaming Cliffs 3: $39.99 to $11.99 (70% off)
    DCS: A-10C Warthog: $39.99 to $11.99 (70% off)
    DCS: Black Shark 2: $39.99 to $11.99 (70% off)
    DCS: P-51D Mustang: $29.99 to $8.99 (70% off)
    DCS: Combined Arms: $19.99 to $5.99 (70% off)
    F-15C for DCS World: $9.99 to $2.99 (70% off)
    A-10A for DCS World: $9.99 to $2.99 (70% off)
    Su-25 for DCS World: $9.99 to $2.99 (70% off)
    Su-27 for DCS World: $9.99 to $2.99 (70% off)
    DCS: MiG-21Bis: $49.99 to $37.49 (25% off)
    The Aviojet and Hawk also still have a preorder discount going.

    I wrote up what's worth having here a while ago and there's a list of which planes have which kind of modelling here.

    I think weirdly the 109 Kurfurst and Mig-21 have switched places as to which is cheaper this sale.

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    Nice, those are some really good prices!

    They say they cannot be actived on steam, but can these modules be installed in a DCS World steam install? I think the DCS World program functions without steam running.
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    Ah, yes, should have mentioned. If you have any modules on steam, you can 'view cd keys' in steam, and plug those codes into the standalone DCS World client. But it doesn't work the other way - ones purchased on their website can't be fed into the steam client via 'activate product'.
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