However, the game's own journal text on Reaper indoctrination describes Shep's dream sequences to the letter. After 'waking up' you suddenly have unlimited ammo and for the paragon option (ie: the 'right' thing to do) you happen to have the exact same outcome you were just a few minutes ago arguing with TIM over being very bad indeed. Shep is already physically controllable by the Reapers, then asks no questions. What's said by Starchild goes, end of. It's more than plausable that the renegade option does what the tin says and is the only way to break the delusion, thus why Shep destroys the red tube, as opposed to the other, more subserviently performed self-sacrifice options, not to mention the cutscenes for those literally showing Shep's face turning husk-like and not unlike TIM and Saren before. Sure you can die in these run-up scenes, allowing it to be percieved as real events, but then it's a game innit. Quick-time events (what Marauder Shields in all his infamy essentially was) killing the player out of context I find more plausable (possibly comforting) than guffing up and snuffing out most of, if not all of the ninety-odd previous hours of plot relevance.
Last edited by Memph; 17-04-2012 at 12:17 AM.
But do you guys really think that the Bioware writing team have the sophistication and subtlety to actually intend the indoctrination theory? I'm afraid that after Buzz Aldrin's "every life is a precious snowflake, buy our DLC" I decided that they really had very little idea of what people actually wanted.
Indoctrination Theory = The Original Ending Wasn't Bad Enough, We Came Up With Something Even More Retarded.
You stay classy there old man.Indoctrination Theory = The Original Ending Wasn't Bad Enough, We Came Up With Something Even More Retarded.
IT would still be a rubbish ending to a choice'n'consequence game, so the fact it might make a little more sense than taking the crappy ending at face value doesn't mean we should in any way encourage it.
Irrelevant on further examination of the rest of the thread.
What are folks expecting from the much fanfared plans for DLC? Shep can't get up to much if s/he's dead. And adding more filling wouldn't be worth a single toss, as of course Shep ends up dead.
Last edited by Memph; 17-04-2012 at 09:14 AM.
I like the indoctrination ending because it's less stupid and more fitting with mass effects overall narrative than MAGIC GLOWING SUPER ALIEN CHILDREN.
Serious, Saren was a renegade turned indoctrinated but he cared about galactic society so, with a little prompting he popped his dome.
That shep doesn't have a renegade interruption where he tells the alliance fleet to bomb the citadel to space dust (serious, you wouldn't have a pistol destroyable fuel tank that could destroy the citadel on the outside).
All of the 'choices' would be exactly what the controlling force wants, whether literally or not.
I'm failing to writing a blog, specifically about playing games the wrong way
As someone who's defended the ending and Bioware, I do think if the indoctrination thing turns out to be true then I'll turn into a raging internet bastard. And I can't be the only one. The smoking gun to the indoctrination theory is Shep waking up again in one of the endings. The hardest one to get. Most players won't see that, so won't have any reason to take things other than at face value.
It'll basically come down to:
We shipped the game without the real ending
If you've sold the game on now you can't get the real ending
If you bought second hand then you need the online pass to get the real ending
If your console isn't connected to the internet you can't have the real ending
It makes my skin crawl to say it but if they do that I think those people talking about suing Bioware for making an incomplete, faulty product may start to have a point. And for that reason it won't happen. All the other conjectured 'evidence' in the game...honestly I think it's just there from a plan to do something with indoctrination in the endgame (maybe at the TIM encounter) that was dropped.
Still not convinced, as I think if they were adding the "real" ending as DLC they would have done so by now.
Forget Occam's Razor, in my opinion - whichever theory involves the most incompetence is always the correct one ;)
The actual end.
P.S. Would you like some DLC?"