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    So anyone going to get this when it comes out then? Releases in 8 hours apparently, I'd quite like to try and play some of it with you guys but I'll hold off if everyone's been put off by the port.

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    Game has been released on some Warez-Sites already with a semi-functioning Crack (no saving). So much for the necessities of DRM.

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    I'm really, really tempted to pick it up, and might do over the weekend... but I also do want to hold off until I see/hear/read what a few people think of it, see what quality/standard the port is up to, maybe even try a demo to see it for myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfenswan View Post
    Game has been released on some Warez-Sites already with a semi-functioning Crack (no saving). So much for the necessities of DRM.
    DRM? What? As far as I knew, it only carries GFWL, and only because they have no bloody idea how to do netcode for PC and reused the 360 code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauten View Post
    DRM? What? As far as I knew, it only carries GFWL, and only because they have no bloody idea how to do netcode for PC and reused the 360 code.
    One of the purposes of GFWL is as zero day DRM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unaco View Post
    One of the purposes of GFWL is as zero day DRM.
    That's one of the purposes for it's creation, but I doubt they went with GFWL for those reasons.
    I thought Wolfen meant it carried something else, A.K.A. Starforce, TAGES, SecuRom...

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    Pre-loading is go on Steam for anyone interested. Had to restart the client, but it was ready to go after that. I am excite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauten View Post
    That's one of the purposes for it's creation, but I doubt they went with GFWL for those reasons.
    It was likely one of the reasons, considering it has the GFWL ZDPP in it.


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    I thought Wolfen meant it carried something else, A.K.A. Starforce, TAGES, SecuRom...
    No. Just GFWL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amateurscientist View Post
    Pre-loading is go on Steam for anyone interested. Had to restart the client, but it was ready to go after that. I am excite.
    Cheers for heads up, will get it on the go ASAP. Also Bank holiday weekend = win.
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    GFWL is likely for the multiplayer aspect. Remember it's a 360 port.

    The game also has Steam DRM.

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    Yeah, pretty sure the GfWL is just for multiplayer.

    Also: If the crack doesn't support saving, it isn't a fully functional crack and is thus an argument for the DRM "working". Because nobody in their right mind (no, Youtube people don't count. But link me to it if you find it) will beat this in one sitting, and are thus encouraged to purchase it if they need it pre-0-day.


    And thanks for the heads up. I'll go see if GMG gave me a key yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gundato View Post
    Yeah, pretty sure the GfWL is just for multiplayer.

    Also: If the crack doesn't support saving, it isn't a fully functional crack and is thus an argument for the DRM "working".
    Still 7 hours left, buddy.

    I will be very amused if it gets cracked before it even gets unlocked.

    If it won't, no big deal; day 0 is just for the bragging rights, day 1 is where it's at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unaco View Post
    No. Just GFWL.
    yeah it just uses zdp (other gfwl games have had other drm types attached to the launcher, though; the way gfwl works precludes anything being used on the .exe). although they were a bit clever this time and tied some of the sound files to the decryption key the .exe gets from the zdp server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundato View Post
    Also: If the crack doesn't support saving, it isn't a fully functional crack and is thus an argument for the DRM "working".
    the actual crack isn't out yet. it's a hexedit on the data.exe and some fmod .dlls from a previous release (renegade ops). the scene or p2p crack will be out when the decryption keys are available, and it will support saving.

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    and are thus encouraged to purchase it if they need it pre-0-day.
    that doesn't even make sense. pre 0-day? so before the game is actually out. if they need it pre 0-day i'd suggest they start a site reviewing computer games.

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    Supposedly game is already live on Steam in some regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohorovicic View Post
    The game also has Steam DRM.
    I don't think it does have Steamworks. Everything I've read about it, says that it only has GFWL.

    It's available on Steam, but that's not the same thing as having Steam DRM (games you buy on Steam, that don't have Steamworks, can be run like any other, normal DRM free game from the .exe in the Steam folder, even if Steam isn't running).
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    I was (mostly) mocking them, for the record.

    But to argue it is an example of the DRM NOT working is wrong. It is just an example of DRM being DRM.
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    So yeah, is anyone going to want to try and team up and play together or just gonna co-op on the fly with whoever/singleplayer it through?

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    Do you know how multiplayer in Dark Souls works? Because I don't think you know how it works

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    I haven't been following Dark Souls's PC updates to matchmaking much, but it really isn't that kind of game. It is the kind of game where you randomly work with people you don't know, not team up and take on the world together. Half the atmosphere is the sensation of being alone in a hellish land.
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