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    Quote Originally Posted by grasskit View Post
    would you guys recommend getting drake sword on first run through? heard it might make beginning of the game bit too easy
    Drake Sword is the noobtube of Dark Souls. You will pick it up, own everything up until the second bell, and then you will have neither the skill, nor the weapon for the rest of the game because it doesn't scale.

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    For me, Drake Sword pales compared to the Gravelord Sword, which scales a little. It was my most powerful weapon in raw damage until Dragon's Tooth, and most fun until Demon Spear. Also it isn't all that hard to get if you're good at running/bows, and possibly have a Divine weapon.

    Am I right in assuming what everyone is having trouble with in Blighty is a) the toxin snipers and b) getting poisoned without moss on hand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnox View Post
    Am I right in assuming what everyone is having trouble with in Blighty is a) the toxin snipers and b) getting poisoned without moss on hand?
    For me its mainly technical problems that most third person games have. e.g. When fighting the fatty in the middle sections if I locked on a few times the camera placed my view right behind a wall. Due to how cramped it is in some spots there I've wasted a few flasks in that area just trying to figure out what is going on. Hardly helps the fat guys were 2 shotting me if I left my guard open.
    Second problem came with the poison as well. SPOILERS! the water really caught me off guard. I died about 10 feet away from the bonfire there, and when I found it later I swore quite loudly when I realized where it was (15k souls and 5 humanity down the drain) /SPOILERS!
    On my way back once the wall started firing homing arrows of death at me that one-shot me. Is this normal? Was hollow so guess it was not an invader.

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    I upgraded Astora's Straight Sword to +4 last night, and it made good work of those Silver Knights in AL. It takes like 3/4s of their health on a parry+riposte. Plus it has C scaling for Strength, Dex, and Faith, so it's only going to get better as my stats increase. I'm going with a Strength/Faith Sunbro build, so I reckon I could use it for a good while. I eventually want to get my faith up to 50 so I can use the Sunlight Spears on NG+. Also, it counts as a divine weapon, so I won't have to craft anything for that one area later in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by db1331 View Post
    I'd say get it, but only use it if you get stuck somewhere. It's much more fun to upgrade a normal weapon to +5 through titanite shards.
    This is going to be my approach (just got it on my current playthrough). I acquired it early on in my previous run and although I wouldn't say I 'owned' everything in sight as Mohorovicic would have you believe, its high punch damage output does tend to mask your tactical deficiencies. I was pretty much wading in against a couple of opponents at a time without thinking too hard about it, where as really the way to go is to try and encourage one on one battles and employ the combat options available to you in terms of moves, weapons, equipment and utilizing the geography to your advantage to get the upper hand.

    In the undead berg for instance initially I was engaging everyone hand to hand, even getting up onto the roof to deal with the firebomb guys which given they're always going to cause damage to you is just plain stupid really (you ideally want to save your health for the big fights). This time I made sure I didn't waste all my souls and packs of souls on leveling up but instead fought my way through to the merchant beneath the two spear soldiers and forked out on a short bow, a load of arrows (200 or so) and about 50 throwing knives (sometimes an easier option than B&A as they're an item and they don't really miss) and used them to work my way through the rest of the level, shooting down the firebomb guys, kiting the dude out of the chamber beyond, sniping down at the armoured trio from the crossbow tower and then triggering the fireball trap beyond right before the Taurus demon. All it cost me was some arrows which are 10 souls a pop. No wear and tear on my armour or swords and because I hadn't died I was able to just nip back to merchant and buy a bunch more without running a gauntlet.

    It's also definitely worth looking at weapons strengths and weaknesses in terms of best attack etc in the information screens. Certain weapons are more appropriate than others for particular opponents, and using particular attack approaches. Drake sword is powerful, but it's also quite slow. Not as much as a two hander, but certainly a lot slower than my scimitar for instance, which is great for cutting down low level duders.

    Also totally worth buying the yellow chalk from the merchant so you can rate and leave ingame messages for other players. I left a few helpful hints for people and earned about 5 humanity in a very short amount of time.

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    Or just kill the merchant. You'll get the Yellow Soapstone and Residence Key, which are only things worth buying anyway, as well as humanity and Uchigatana(if that's your thing).

    It might be considered a sin though, I'm not sure about that.

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    Just bombed through Anor Londo and killed O&S, helped out a few guys there too. Also was invaded on the way by a mage using what I assume are DLC sorceries, as I've never seen the like before, he blew me to pieces.

    Anyway, I figure I should be able to go try the DLC content now as I can get into the Dukes' Archives.

    Anyone else here tried it? Know what level I should be at before tackling it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laneford View Post
    Just bombed through Anor Londo and killed O&S, helped out a few guys there too. Also was invaded on the way by a mage using what I assume are DLC sorceries, as I've never seen the like before, he blew me to pieces.

    Anyway, I figure I should be able to go try the DLC content now as I can get into the Dukes' Archives.

    Anyone else here tried it? Know what level I should be at before tackling it?
    I don't know anything about the new content, but damn. I tried getting summoned for co-op for O&S for like 15-20 minutes yesterday, and couldn't get summoned once. I was right in the "recommended" level range too. Then I gave up and turned human just to see how many signs were lying around. There were only two. The summon failed on the first one, but the second guy came through. We ran to the big room with the giant knights and then someone invaded. I hauled it to Solaire's summon sign, called him in, then ran to the boss door as the guy was trying to kill my summoned buddy. I didn't have any trouble getting summoned for the gargoyles or capra, or even Blighttown, but ever since I hit Sen's Fortress I haven't been summoned once.
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    I was level 50, I think. Got quite a few summons both at the bonfire, and then just before O&S fog door. Quite a few soul signs around for when I wanted to take them on myself as well.

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    How much easier are O&S with Solaire?
    I just tried them solo, killed Orny while taking barely a scratch. Ornpowered Smough wasn't much harder, but I messed up a roll (why did I roll? He does barely any damage through my block) and got slaughtered. I'm guessing he'll be easier just taking him out with firebombs, or with a phantom in there.

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    It's much easier with Solaire. Just having him take one of them off of you at the beginning makes the fight a breeze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnox View Post
    How much easier are O&S with Solaire?
    I just tried them solo, killed Orny while taking barely a scratch. Ornpowered Smough wasn't much harder, but I messed up a roll (why did I roll? He does barely any damage through my block) and got slaughtered. I'm guessing he'll be easier just taking him out with firebombs, or with a phantom in there.
    Way to make the rest of us who found them obscenely​ difficult feel bad. :(

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    Finally, finally beat the gargoyles, with the help of Best Friend Solaire (praise the sun!). Got the tail axe and the halberd and all that business, so I'm reasonably happy for now. Don't know where to go next though, I've taken out the Titanite Demon guarding the door to Darkroot, so it's either there or the Lower Burg I'll lead my hilariously inept charge to next. Huzzah!

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    I summoned 2 people into my game for the Gargoyles and it was ridiculously easy, I think I would have actually had to try and get myself killed, so I don't think I'll do that for the next boss. I was summoned into another's game and saved them from a Black Phantom which made me feel awesome though. I'm a bit stuck now though, I can't remember if I got the basement key.

    CWalker if I were you, I'd go to the Lower Undead Burg. Get rid of the Capra Demon, first, that seems like a more natural progression.

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    Capra is a harder fight than the Darkroot area, I think. Some nice gear there, as well as an opportunity to build up some moss. You're going to need them.

    Either one is good, both can lead to the next bit of story.

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    Did Smough and Ornstein today then co-oped the hell out of them, got about 125k souls from doing that. After that I took on the 4 kings, so I can join DarkWraith and get what I think is the 'good' ending. After that it wass back to Anor Londo for some invading, no hackers tonight, but a fair few people using stuff from the DLC which made me jealous, so I headed there.

    I managed to take out the first two bosses without too many problems, although I did get owned on the second one; he was one hit away from dying, so i thought 'I can get an extra attack in here!' I couldn't. My lack of stamina proved fatal.
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    I'm stuck on the second one too.

    I'm using a very heavy upgraded black knight greatsword, which does a fair bit of damage to him... when I can lay a finger on him.

    I've gone elsewhere to level up a bit and return stronger.

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    I've now been jumping back and forth between 3 characters. A slightly crap (because it's the character that went first and missed things as I later realised) miracle-specced cleric, a sorceror and a knight.

    I'm still not much good at parrying, but none of those classes particularly care. The cleric and sorc rendered those gargoyles absurdly easy, it took me to my second attempt on the knight. The knight is rather slow, but that hasn't been any real handicap since I've been boosting my endurance a lot and got a lucky early BK shield drop, I also picked up the loot from the 'dead' dragon right from the off, that sword is helping a lot.

    I'm aiming to get my carry weight high enough to offset the weight of my armour, which should be possible, my cleric has two rings that increase carry weight and my knight is fast approaching that area of the game.

    Also, had my first invasion today on my sorc, which I won. I was just clearing the bottom floor of the church when I got the message and some red guy was running around throwing poison throwing knives at me. Turns out player-used poison is really frickin weak, so I just sat there and showed that a sorc has significantly more firepower than some pansy with knives. About when he decided to charge into melee was about when I decided I was hitting reliably enough to throw a really big spell at him. Boom.

    Edit: Another invasion, this time on my knight in the depths. Heh, poor bugger had no idea what he was doing, ended up 'gifting' me nearly 7k souls. Circling for a backstab seems to be very much the way to deal with inexperienced pvpers, they take a great big lunge at you and leave themselves perfectly open. Hell this guy didn't even have his shield out.

    Also, in Blighty now. Three words: Fucking. Poison. Snipers.
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    Why do people continue to try and make classes in classless systems is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohorovicic View Post
    Why do people continue to try and make classes in classless systems is beyond me.
    Because specialising is superior to picking something of everything, mostly? Especially when you can't be brilliant at everything.

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