Quote Originally Posted by Heliocentric View Post
Maybe not Oblivion due to the extreme funneling and issues with "elaborate and believable game world" but otherwise, yeah I guess most of these games if the AI's behaviour was a little better as to allow more than just "kill your way to room B" to be valid methods, But hell, I'd totally ban Bioshock from it. Bioshock is a shooter with a a few cool things, but that's all it really is.
Well, you can stealth through dungeons, kill things using weapons, kill stuff using magic, run through using magic and summon stuff to fight for you. The AI might suck, but the AI in Deus Ex sucked too. I agree with BioShock though. That's definitely not an immersive sim.