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    Quote Originally Posted by sabrage View Post
    I have it, but any attempts to play it would involve re-buying it for Gamecube... The Wii controls suck ass. What's up with Nintendo, Zelda, and making me fish? I hate fishing. I hate fishing in games. Stop doing that.
    Haha. With a good enough PC, there's no reason why you couldn't play TP on Dolphin. In fact, having the GC version automatically makes it easier as you won't have to faff about with the set-up for wireless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman Tribe Leader View Post
    Not sure what the missing verb was going to be (I hope its not "I've hated almost every top-down Zelda game"), but if you've never played Link's Awakening
    , I think it might be the best game in the series.
    Sentence still stands when taken to mean that he has all of them, which is definitely possible. I've heard such things about Link's Awakening though. My best friend keeps telling me to play it...
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    Link's Awakening is indeed the best of the series. Link to the Past is also very, very good.

    Quote Originally Posted by sabrage View Post
    ... but I'd much rather have a game that doesn't feel the need to signpost me at every step.
    This is the reason I can't finish Skyward Sword. The hand holding is just ridiculous now.

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    It doesn't help that the motion controls are...subjective, at best. The Skyward Sword thread ended up being filled with me going from excitement, to disappointment, to ambivalence and acceptance. Lemme put it this way; Skyward Sword is the reason I'm incredibly looking forward to Darksiders 2.

    I've spent the last few posts not saying I've played any games. Truth is, I'm majorly distracting myself from work due in later today, so this evening I'll be able to play games again in a vegatitive state. In the last few days or so, I've nipped on a few levels of Sonic Generations and tried some speed running. With skills, I was able to beat Green Hill act 2 in 1m 59s. I also did some quick times for Crisis City (both acts) although I can't remember the times. It's such a damn good game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman Tribe Leader View Post
    squirrelfanatic: If it's about adventure games, it's probably John Walker. He's written about it at least twice. TLJ really is delightful, even if there are still a couple dud puzzles.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambchops View Post
    John Walker. I'd recommend waiting until you're done though, if I remember correctly a lot of the articles have spoilers in them. It's also possible that there are more articles about the sequel Dreamfall AKA "the one that made him cry."

    The Longest Jounrey is wonderful. There's a few duff puzzles here and there but the characters and world they inhabit are delightful and soon ease any frustrations that occur.
    Thanks to both of you, I should have known. :) I think I'll refrain from reading the articles right now until I am done with the game. And good to know that there is a sequel too.

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    I've almost finished the story of Sequence, my plan is to have that done tonight.

    Also this weekend I played a big chunk of the first Trine with my wife. It is very pretty, but the game itself is not impressing me much. It seems to be nothing more than mashing the jump button until you manage to clear an obstacle or mashing the attack button until the skeletons are dead. The puzzles seem to be nothing more sophisticated than make a box to jump from or to jam up a mechanism with and I'm not finding them becoming any more interesting as the game progresses. In fact, the further on we get, the less flexibility there seem to be and the less inventiveness works. It certainly isn't a bad game, and it is very pretty, but I'm finding it a mix of frustrating control pounding and uninspired puzzling.

    And playing it on a controller is awful (my wife nabbed the keyboard).

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    Quote Originally Posted by amusingthebrood View Post
    Also this weekend I played a big chunk of the first Trine with my wife.
    I wish my wife were so open to new experiences.

    Wait, Trine is an expression for threesome, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Sigar View Post
    I wish my wife were so open to new experiences.

    Wait, Trine is an expression for threesome, right?
    With the right equipment I believe three at once is certainly an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The JG Man View Post
    In the last few days or so, I've nipped on a few levels of Sonic Generations and tried some speed running. With skills, I was able to beat Green Hill act 2 in 1m 59s. I also did some quick times for Crisis City (both acts) although I can't remember the times. It's such a damn good game.

    I've been meaning to ask you about Generations. You seem to be the resident Sonic expert here, and I dug up the thread you made in the leadup to its release, but it petered out before any verdicts were given. I guess you just answered my main question, but is there anything I should know about the quality of the port, or any other Sonic PC game I should play instead, as a newcomer? (Steam and GamersGate want me to pay $50 for Generations, so it probably won't arrive in my price range for quite a while.)

    edit: just found it for $15 on Get Games, so it's now in the possible buy range. Small plug: I'm not sure whether this varies from region to region (i.e. perhaps it's just that everyone else is ripping me off for being Australian), but getgamesgo.com has surprisingly good prices on some games. Their $15 price for Sonic Generations compares with $30 from D2D and $50 from Steam and GamersGate, and I recently picked up Jagged Alliance 2 Gold for $3, as opposed to $10 from GamersGate or $20 from Steam. I think I'll have to work Get Games (and Green Man Gaming, for that matter) into my regular price-check routine. Good to see a bit of competition for Steam et al.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The JG Man View Post
    Haha. With a good enough PC, there's no reason why you couldn't play TP on Dolphin. In fact, having the GC version automatically makes it easier as you won't have to faff about with the set-up for wireless.
    Eh... The fact that my CPU is really showing its age aside, I hate the general bugginess of emulation. I've got enough games to play as it is though, so I'll cross that bridge when I finish the other 3 Zelda games I've got piled up, then take a long break from Hyrule.

    I think LttP has better graphics, music and gameplay than Ocarina. It's faster, the puzzles are more interesting, and it doesn't assume that I'm retarded.

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    Spent the weekend playing Dodonpachi Resurrection on the 360 (RIP Cave, its not too late to consider the PC) and Rayman Origins (also on the 360), probably the best platformer of 2011. Its kind of a shame Ubisoft didn't bring it to the PC like the rest of the series, but they took a big enough chance releasing it on the consoles (where it bombed, since its not a shooter in the first or third person variety.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD! View Post
    Is there anything I should know about the quality of the port, or any other Sonic PC game I should play instead, as a newcomer?
    A second thread for SG was made. Take a gander. Most of the response was positive. I think the Steam winter sale thread had some posts in it aswell, but that main thread should cover your ground. As for the version; if you have the specs for it, then you get by far the best version of the game (consoles get 720p and 30fps, you can get it up to 1080p and 60fps). You are pretty much required to use a controller though; all button prompts use the Xbox buttons, so in that sense it's a bit lazy. Other than performance quality, there's no differences between the versions, so by getting the PC version you get the best and cheaper.

    Other than Sonic 2 and 3 & Knuckles, I'm fairly certain Sonic Generations is the best you can get on the PC, maybe until CD finally comes out (and definitely neglecting Sonic 4 because it's Sonic 4).

    Quote Originally Posted by sabrage View Post
    I've got enough games to play as it is though
    Fair enough. I wouldn't dismiss any of the others, but other than Ocarina of Time, A Link to the Past is in a league of its own.
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    Thanks for that, sounds like it's worth a go. I had missed/forgotten about that thread entirely, for some reason.

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    Really, if you liked Sonic at any part, there's something for you to enjoy. 2D is good. It's not perfect, but it's the best they've done since the classics. Modern is in its best incarnation yet and controls well. The fact is, if it didn't have Sonic in the title and the doubt it came with it, it'd probably have got a lot more attention. The only justifiable thing fans have against it is that some think it's not quite as good as Sonic Colours. This is a good thing.
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    The only problem Generations has is its length; if you're good at Sonic games, you can blow through it in a weekend (and I did just that, with S ranks on every level.) If you don't like searching for inane collectibles, there isn't a lot left to do once you beat it. I personally hate collectibles so I really didn't go out of my way to get red coins (just did the ones for the achievements for the hell of it.)

    Personally, I would have enjoyed less challenge levels, less collectibles and more core levels but when the only complaint with a game is that you want more of an awesome game, thats more of an accomplishment than anything.

    For $10 - $20, its absolutely a must buy, as most people should get more than 10 hours out of it if they are average at platformers. I paid $50 on launch day and don't regret it.

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    I'd argue though that the 'core' levels are designed with replayability in mind. The collectibles obviously immediately highlight that, but there's also the speed running element. Finally, putting that aside, I just find them fun to run through.

    I don't know if any other Sonic player feels the same, but I used to use 2/3&K as 'that game' to play whenever you're bored and are thinking what to do next, or maybe to cheer you up. I feel Generations has become that for me now. Hop on, select a level and you've got a nice blast of 10 minutes. It is a short game, but you could more than easily say that about the old titles and in much the same way, I think it's geared for replayability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The JG Man View Post
    I'd argue though that the 'core' levels are designed with replayability in mind. The collectibles obviously immediately highlight that, but there's also the speed running element. Finally, putting that aside, I just find them fun to run through.

    I don't know if any other Sonic player feels the same, but I used to use 2/3&K as 'that game' to play whenever you're bored and are thinking what to do next, or maybe to cheer you up. I feel Generations has become that for me now. Hop on, select a level and you've got a nice blast of 10 minutes. It is a short game, but you could more than easily say that about the old titles and in much the same way, I think it's geared for replayability.
    I run through the old games often (have them all on the 360 so no need to hook up older systems to do so) but I don't know... I don't feel the same about this one. I got my fill in the weekend I played of it and I've never really wanted to go back. Maybe it has to do with the fact its more of a pain in the ass to pop a game in the 360 to play for 10 minutes at a time, haha.

    I was never big on speed running levels (again, only did it where I had to for an achievement) and I abhor collectibles and wish the industry would abandon them as they are crappy ways to pad out game time. While the core levels are replayable, I really wanted to see more levels celebrating more of Sonic's past.

    I mean, like I said earlier I think that for me personally, Generations wasn't that long because I've been a Sonic fan for a long time and the game wasn't that difficult if you know what you're doing. I think for an average player or someone not familiar with the franchise, getting S rank on every level could take awhile (and beating some of the later stages could be a challenge in and of itself).

    This is a game where DLC would be highly welcomed -- I'd certainly buy levels remade for Generations, but it seems Sega has already moved on and completely skipped a great opportunity here. I was really hoping we'd see a lot of awesome DLC for this in the form of level packs.

    Disappointed that Casino Night was just a pinball machine too. If they wanted a pinball level, why not just remake Toxic Caves?

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    Hmmm, I'm not so sure I entirely agree with you on the collectibles in this game. Others, yes, but the sound track reward is suitable for me. Yeah, the game was a little easy on the whole...can't argue with that. As for main level DLC, it's worth considering that 2006 and Unleashed were heavily supported and considering how well Colours did, the only reason it didn't was because it was on the Wii. Also, this is Sega; we didn't have official confirmation of a PC version until a very short time before its release, whilst there'd been evidence for months. It looks like exactly the same is going to happen for Sonic 4 and Sonic CD has been kept rather silent too. Basically, Sega doesn't know what to do with PC versions of Sonic, although I'm willing to bet the main titles have sold reasonably well.
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    I finished Shadowgrounds this morning... and now I'm not entirely sure what to play next. I've got several of the D&D RPGs (Baldur's Gate 1/2, Icewind Dales 1/2) but I also really would like to play through Titan Quest. That said, I was considering Cave Story. I don't know what to choose!

    Other than that, it's the same ol' laddering in Bronze in Starcraft2 and dinking around with Skyrim. ;)

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    Okay wow! That AssCreed numero uno is repetetive as hell! It's really annoying to climb up all the view points exactly the same way, crouch up top and see the same animation 5 times in 3 minutes! And trying to quit this game is driving me NUTS! ARGH! WHO THE **** INVENTED THIS SHIT? I overally like it but there are things I genuinely hate about this game.. Also - is there something like fast travel or do I really have to go through the whole village and that canyon just so I can go to other cities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amusingthebrood View Post
    I've almost finished the story of Sequence, my plan is to have that done tonight.

    Also this weekend I played a big chunk of the first Trine with my wife. It is very pretty, but the game itself is not impressing me much. It seems to be nothing more than mashing the jump button until you manage to clear an obstacle or mashing the attack button until the skeletons are dead. The puzzles seem to be nothing more sophisticated than make a box to jump from or to jam up a mechanism with and I'm not finding them becoming any more interesting as the game progresses. In fact, the further on we get, the less flexibility there seem to be and the less inventiveness works. It certainly isn't a bad game, and it is very pretty, but I'm finding it a mix of frustrating control pounding and uninspired puzzling.

    And playing it on a controller is awful (my wife nabbed the keyboard).
    I Played the original Trine solo and thought the puzzles were great. I've been playing the sequel with a friend in co-op, and the puzzles are pathetic. I'm not sure whether the design changed, or whether multiple people just make the game hilariously easy. I'm leaning towards the latter, and that may be the problem you're encountering. Once the wizard can just fly the other player around on a box, there's really no significant puzzle challenge to be found.

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