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    Speaking of Total Wars. I've been getting many more deaths on Medieval 2 after each battle than I'm used to in Rome. I wonder if this is due to Medieval being more deathly, or just that I can't care as much for the fighting when it feels so much worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casimir Effect View Post
    Not yet, it's on The List. So far I've just done a single play of Empire getting total British world domination, and the Italian campaign of Napoleon.
    Pfft, amateur. I've completed the grand campaign with Britain, France, United Provinces, Spain, Sweden, Prussia and Maratha Confederacy. I've started Russia and Ottoman Empire too, but dropped them for reasons I can't remember. I believe I've got my money's worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanbuoy View Post
    Pfft, amateur. I've completed the grand campaign with Britain, France, United Provinces, Spain, Sweden, Prussia and Maratha Confederacy. I've started Russia and Ottoman Empire too, but dropped them for reasons I can't remember. I believe I've got my money's worth.
    Pah, only the grand campaign. I conquered every single territory with 50-odd turns remaining, so had to hammer the end turn button just to tick things over in my utopian empire to the end date. And that was with being unable to save from turn 130 onwards due to some sort of bug.

    I will replay it one day but not for a while due to the homogeneity of the european units.

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    Hmph, I've conquered the world with both the mighty Swedish Empire and the Glorious Spaniards. Although, I must admit to being impressed by the non-saving bit.
    Sure, the units are mainly the same across Europe, but the different starting locations keep things fresh IMHO.
    Last edited by Fanbuoy; 23-11-2012 at 04:04 PM.

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    That's what I was thinking, Austria could be a whole load of fun to play seeing as you start surrounded by assholes. And I guess they don't have the colonial objectives so you get to focus on Europe.

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    I really liked Medieval because i like that period of times,and it was my first Total War game :P
    ... I take the lives of a few to protect the lives of many. I commit acts of war to preserve the greater peace. I take no joy in killing, but make no mistake; I'll do what needs to be done. Because it's my job. It's my duty. My name is Sam Fisher, and I am a Splinter Cell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casimir Effect View Post
    That's what I was thinking, Austria could be a whole load of fun to play seeing as you start surrounded by assholes. And I guess they don't have the colonial objectives so you get to focus on Europe.
    My second Empire game was as Poland-Lithuania and it was quite fun. Difficult at first, but my victory then tasted all the sweeter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simast View Post
    I like it. It takes a lot of time to unlock stuff, but once you do - at least you feel like you achieved something. Also, you have a choice in your unlocks (compared to say Battlefield 3 system).
    it takes way too much time. was in a small squad last night that managed to push an entire continent (amerish) along with pushing some amp stations on other conts. all in all an incredibly successful evening that resulted in 100 certs, which is only 1/20th of the way towards unlocking two useful weapons for one class (to say nothing of the scopes, troop abilities, vehicle upgrades, etc.)

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    Messing up Japan in Shogun 2 with Ninjas and Missionaries, weakening all of the factions by sabotaging their economic infrastructure and causing religious unrest while I advance my military research. Battles are soooo previous games in the previous Total War series.

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    Went back to play some of the new Sanctum maps while waiting for my copy of Borderlands 2 to arrive. It's as outstanding as I remember, and I like the new layouts and the new monster. Still the best of the action/TD hybrids, IMO.

    I've largely moved from Warlock, which is fine but uninspired, to AoW: Shadow Magic, which is more what I want in that sort of game. Still brilliant, after all these years, though I wish someone would come along with a new game to give it a run for its money. Maybe Eador, who knows?

    I'm also strongly considering making a run at Shogun 2. I know diddly crap about Japanese history, unfortunately, anyone care to suggest a good faction to start with?

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    Chosokabe is a nice faction to go with, they have the southern island pretty much to themselves so you're safe to begin with, but not so far out that it's impossible to get a foothold.

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    Excellent, soon everyone will be playing Total War games.

    In my Rome game Pontus have just ceased to exist as a kingdom and in a single turns time I will be telling the Senate in no uncertain terms to go fuck themselves with a rusty pilum. I've got armies ready to go in the Pyrenees, Southern Italy, West Balkans and what I would guess to be Slovakia-ish.

    I was hoping to get Scythia as allies to harry the northeast Brutii holdings but they remain at war with Armenia who I have recently entered into an alliance with to protect my eastern flank. Nicely, Armenia have just broken their alliance with Egypt to form one with my other eastern ally, Parthia, who are actually at war with Egypt who therefore declared war on Armenia. It's just too perfect, as now the east should be happy killing each other while I become the ruler of Rome; the people of who love me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinraith View Post
    I've largely moved from Warlock, which is fine but uninspired, to AoW: Shadow Magic, which is more what I want in that sort of game. Still brilliant, after all these years, though I wish someone would come along with a new game to give it a run for its money. Maybe Eador, who knows?

    I'm also strongly considering making a run at Shogun 2. I know diddly crap about Japanese history, unfortunately, anyone care to suggest a good faction to start with?
    Did you play Fallen Enchantress?

    The Chosokabe and Shimazu are both good starting clans in Shogun 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casimir Effect View Post
    Excellent, soon everyone will be playing Total War games.
    I haven't really enjoyed one since Rome (well, if we're honest, Rome Total Realism, Rome vanilla is too "movie history" for my tastes). I picked up Shogun 2 based on strong reviews, despite having largely parted ways with the series. My hopes are not high, but I'd like to give it a fair shake. I'm half hoping I'll enjoy it, and half hoping it'll put me off strongly enough that I'll have the strength of will to pass on Rome 2 despite adoring the period.


    Quote Originally Posted by Giaddon View Post
    Did you play Fallen Enchantress?
    Stardock and I have parted ways, so no.

    The Chosokabe and Shimazu are both good starting clans in Shogun 2.
    Thanks (and also to Woundedbum!) for the suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinraith View Post
    Went back to play some of the new Sanctum maps while waiting for my copy of Borderlands 2 to arrive. It's as outstanding as I remember, and I like the new layouts and the new monster. Still the best of the action/TD hybrids, IMO.
    Did you do the Yogscave one? My buddy and I actually had to bust out the graph paper to efficiently maze that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabrage View Post
    Did you do the Yogscave one? My buddy and I actually had to bust out the graph paper to efficiently maze that one.
    Did that one when it came out awhile back and yeah, it was a bit tricky. I've no idea what "yogscast" is and must admit I turned the sound off after a certain point, but the actual map is excellent. The ones I've been playing recently, though, are from the new map pack.

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    Though each clan in shogun 2 has a natural strength which can affect the composition of your army, you can play most factions however you wish. Simply because I liked their historical rivalry, I tend to either play as the Uesugi or the Takeda. The Takeda moreso because I liked their swishy red colour and better cavalry is always a plus. Really, just go for whatever you like in a faction (I tend to look at starting position, unit specialism, and whether I like their colour) and it'll all pan out fine.

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    I just picked up Thief Deadly Shadows from steam for like 2 bucks and will play it tomorrow. i played the demo for this when it first came out years ago but never got it, so this will be my first Thief game. i know i should play the first 2 games before this but i don't have those. they were on sale too but i only had the money for 1 so i chose Deadly Shadows.
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    I want to play Inversion but it crashes over and over again when it loads a new level. I managed to play the tutorial but now it won't load the next level. Maximum bummer. The tutorial bit looked INCREDIBLE in 3D, instantly went to my top 5 most beautiful 3D games.
    Nobody bought this game so most crash info I found online comes from pirates. I'm tempted to pirate it and see if that version works.

    Well, back to Risen 2 now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinraith View Post
    I'm also strongly considering making a run at Shogun 2. I know diddly crap about Japanese history, unfortunately, anyone care to suggest a good faction to start with?
    See frogbeasteggs's guide: http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...-War-Shogun-II

    Its' very comprehensive and helpful, she really sets out all the basics. I would say start with anyone bar the Oda or Tokugawa, and be aware of the clan bonuses. If you're planning on going the Christian route it's more or less pointless to choose the Uesugi with their monks for example.

    Also, be aware of some of the newer elements as they play a huge part in making it a) harder and b) better.

    Food surplus and rice, and town growth-these are all connected, and not immediately apparent concepts but they're worth reading into as they affect the long game more than anything else. A lack of rice won't allow you to build any more castles irrespective of how much you have in the bank and hungry peasants will be angry regardless of the garrisons you have or whatever. Certain buildings such as the market give you more income but they require a point of rice, and often long term rice is worth more than a few hundred koku per turn. There is a real difference between economy, income and supply as a result. In the first games these were all the same things basically.

    Research-dramatically improves either your economy or military, but you can only do one at a time. You need to think about what you want. If you want an excellent military you will *have* to do so at the expense of economy, and vice versa. If you want excellent spearmen you will have to develop them at the expense of your archers, cavalry and swordsmen and economy and so on. Jack of all trades research is master of none and so on. Basically, if you don't plan and come up against a faction who has, you'll really feel it.

    Agents and family units now get traits when they level up that you can choose, don't forget.

    Samurai are very expensive both to buy and to keep but only powerful if used correctly, if you treat them as rank and file they will die as rank and file and you can get far cheaper and more numerable Ashigaru for this purpose. Again, you have to think about what you want basically, due to the counters system spamming certain units will likley see you die against the AI's balanced forces.

    The AI finally follows the same rules as you, and Diplomacy is no longer just about preventing war for abit, I've been at peace with everyone now for twenty years through focussing on it. By the same token if you act as a land grabbing oppurtunisitc bastard no-one will like or trust you. Coalitions now work as well so if you're up against one it's often better to try and break it than fight it.

    I'll stop now but the above are some good examples of why it's such a superior TW. It's more complex but the AI understands how to play in spite of the complexity basically. With the exception of mods I was as cynical as it comes regarding new TW games, despite having played them since Shogun on day of release, they seemed broken and bloated and gamey. But Shogun 2 has me completely flabbergatsed, it's just a joy to play and also, crucially, to watch as well because what the AI does makes sense and matters.

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