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    Quote Originally Posted by DaftPunk View Post
    How hard is original XCOM to get it,don't know why but the new one feels kinda limited,even as i didn't played original ones.
    Your rookies shoot like half-blind old men with Parkinson's disease, for starters. And the starting gear for your troops are nothing more than a rubber band and pebbles to fend for themselves.
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    I find it very hard. Extremely.

    People get one shotted all the time and I don't have idea where a shot come from. You can easily miss an alien who is in the corner but your soldier didn't look there (so alien can be next to your guy and you won't know it)
    and your base can get invaded
    and if you don't build it properly you are apparently screwed. i am still waiting for my first xcombase invasion


    love the game. got used to the graphics and interface in an hour. give it a try. It is dosbox so works perfectly and it is cheap. (GOG does not have the first game. it has only newer ones made by different team. so i got my copy via steam)

    but yeah: the game is frigging hard. no ironman mode here.

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    Playing NWN2 to see what difference there is if you play as a Tiefling, horns and all.

    So far, the only difference is that Neeshka says, "hey, another Tiefling!"

    Upon firing up NWN2 I was immediately reminded of the many things I disliked about the D&D universe. In NWN2 alone, you get to be:

    a half-elf
    a half-orc
    a half-elemental
    a half-snake
    a half-angel
    a half-demon
    a half-dragon

    so I of course set out to be a human with both demon and dragon blood, because if they want to be a Mary Sue, I will Mary Sue the fuck outta them! Also, humans are total sluts.
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    And in how many of those unions were we raped? I'd say at least half. Especially when it comes to those orcs, the filthy buggers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    Playing NWN2 to see what difference there is if you play as a Tiefling, horns and all.

    So far, the only difference is that Neeshka says, "hey, another Tiefling!"

    Upon firing up NWN2 I was immediately reminded of the many things I disliked about the D&D universe. In NWN2 alone, you get to be:

    a half-elf
    a half-orc
    a half-elemental
    a half-snake
    a half-angel
    a half-demon
    a half-dragon

    so I of course set out to be a human with both demon and dragon blood, because if they want to be a Mary Sue, I will Mary Sue the fuck outta them! Also, humans are total sluts.
    I played that game as a dwarf monk. I was able to tell Khelgar "isn't a monk a strange path for a dwarf" to which he replied "what would you know?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Sigar View Post
    And in how many of those unions were we raped? I'd say at least half. Especially when it comes to those orcs, the filthy buggers.
    And yet you never see any half-orc/half-elf or half-elf/half-dwarf or half-celestial/half-snake.

    We could be getting all sorts of Greek Diety all up in here, and yet somehow only humans seem to get the attention.

    Maybe humans are just asking for it, dressing up in that adventurer gear and acting like they didn't expect this would happen...
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    I'd pity any developer who had to come up with unique things that could correspond to any combination of NWN2 starting conditions. The fact you can set your age means you can be a grey-haired, 500 year-old half-angel who only now is allowed to go out into the world by his foster father. Wisdom/Intelligence 18 or no, that kid is special.

    And don't assume it ain't the humans doing the dicking. There's always a guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundato View Post
    In general Bioware is bad about that, but I think the ME series (particularly 3) has the best alignment meter, period.
    I disagree. I firmly believe it's Dragon Age 2. Good or bad is scrapped in favour of what other characters would prefer and the friendship/rivalry system comes into place. The effect is they then get different skills available to them and will further react differently to you. It removes that annoying element of having to do the "the right thing".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    And yet you never see any half-orc/half-elf or half-elf/half-dwarf or half-celestial/half-snake.

    We could be getting all sorts of Greek Diety all up in here, and yet somehow only humans seem to get the attention.

    Maybe humans are just asking for it, dressing up in that adventurer gear and acting like they didn't expect this would happen...
    Actually, additional books generally add those races in. Or, preferably, they take an approach of just adding modifiers you can apply. So a "Half-Celestial, Half-Dwarf"/"Dwarven Aasimar" would just be a Dwarf that you apply the appropriate version of the planetouched template to. I don't have my books with me (and it has been a while since I even played D&D), but I think the Monster Manual goes into this.

    The games (and core books) just generally simplify the character creation by focusing on the core races. NWN2 just decided to add in a few variant races as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by The JG Man View Post
    I disagree. I firmly believe it's Dragon Age 2. Good or bad is scrapped in favour of what other characters would prefer and the friendship/rivalry system comes into place. The effect is they then get different skills available to them and will further react differently to you. It removes that annoying element of having to do the "the right thing".

    Which removes any sense of self and turns you into a huge and manipulative asshat. You are actively discouraged from doing what "you" want to do, and instead are expected to do what your companions want. And considering all the companions in DA2 are meant to be tragic characters, well, yeah...

    I greatly preferred the ME-approach where your companions are generally cool with what you do (they might express distaste, but they won't get pissy) outside of their personal quests. Which makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casimir Effect View Post
    And don't assume it ain't the humans doing the dicking. There's always a guy.
    The only reason we don't have half-human/half-couches roaming the lands is because there aren't any sentient couches.

    Quote Originally Posted by gundato View Post
    Which removes any sense of self and turns you into a huge and manipulative asshat. You are actively discouraged from doing what "you" want to do, and instead are expected to do what your companions want. And considering all the companions in DA2 are meant to be tragic characters, well, yeah...

    I greatly preferred the ME-approach where your companions are generally cool with what you do (they might express distaste, but they won't get pissy) outside of their personal quests. Which makes sense.
    But you are a huge, manipulative asshat. That's kinda the role you play.

    The difference in Mass Effect is that everybody has a massive case of Hero Worship when it comes to you.
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    I wanna be a half-halfling.
    Irrelevant on further examination of the rest of the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    The only reason we don't have half-human/half-couches roaming the lands is because there aren't any sentient couches.
    Or sentient benches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundato View Post
    Which removes any sense of self and turns you into a huge and manipulative asshat. You are actively discouraged from doing what "you" want to do, and instead are expected to do what your companions want. And considering all the companions in DA2 are meant to be tragic characters, well, yeah...
    Then only take the characters with you that agree with you? It's also the role that you clearly undertook as your character. Mine was a mostly sarcastic but well meaning individual who err'd towards the most beneficial for all. It's also why when it came to the final act and what Anders had got up to, [spoiler]I had to agonise between handing him over and exiling him, eventually managing to convince people of the latter, even though I'm not sure that was even the right thing to do. What he did was fundamentally wrong, even if I could see why he did it[/spoiler]. The only thing I can think of that comes close to that in ME3 is with Mordin's arc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The JG Man View Post
    Then only take the characters with you that agree with you?
    Which is what you have to do, and sadly removes any real conflict or interest. And also railroads you into playing the extremes even more, as you know that doing something (even if it is "right") will piss off Anders or the Dwarf Whose Name I Forgot.

    Although, DA2 did do better than DAO by having negative opinions strengthen the characters too, but that still just encourages you to play to the extremes. Whereas the ME approach encourages you to RP Shepard and to deal with crap like your companions saying "I dunno Shepard, this war crime seems pretty messed up. But it doesn't affect me personally, and you generally know what you are doing, so I won't abandon you or become less effective".
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    Quote Originally Posted by gundato View Post
    NWN2 just decided to add in a few variant races as well.
    There aren't even NPCs in NWN2 with the sorts of non-human hybrids you listed. Dwarves are prudes.

    Quote Originally Posted by NathanH View Post
    I wanna be a half-halfling.
    Either way, your father was not a big man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    There aren't even NPCs in NWN2 with the sorts of non-human hybrids you listed. Dwarves are prudes.
    ...

    Because NWN2 only added a few variant races?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gundato View Post
    ...

    Because NWN2 only added a few variant races?
    Yet no matter what you party looks like a Hands Across America-style poster for multiculturalism. This is an egregious oversight! Obsidian is racist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casimir Effect View Post
    I'd pity any developer who had to come up with unique things that could correspond to any combination of NWN2 starting conditions. The fact you can set your age means you can be a grey-haired, 500 year-old half-angel who only now is allowed to go out into the world by his foster father. Wisdom/Intelligence 18 or no, that kid is special.
    Don't most of the starting races live hundreds of years? You'd think Obsidian would give themselves some wiggle room. I don't think they specifically mention dates when it comes to the battle of West Harbor, but they provide just enough information so that it never adds up with your chosen age.

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    Did a full playthrough on normal and i took me ~20 hours to complete (minus all the failed attempts where i had to quickload).
    I will probably try a new playthrough on hard once i finished Moments of Truth.
    Bought both games for 19.99€ which seems a very good price for the amount of playtime i'm offered.

    Btw. I found the hitman games easier to complete. Especially the "8 snipers" missions was a pain. From this day on DTS is one of my all time favourite games.

    Ps. I'm also playing loads of BF2: Project Reality. Really an amazing experience with the integrated mumble support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De_willy View Post
    Did a full playthrough on normal and i took me ~20 hours to complete (minus all the failed attempts where i had to quickload).
    I will probably try a new playthrough on hard once i finished Moments of Truth.
    Bought both games for 19.99€ which seems a very good price for the amount of playtime i'm offered.

    Btw. I found the hitman games easier to complete. Especially the "8 snipers" missions was a pain. From this day on DTS is one of my all time favourite games.

    Ps. I'm also playing loads of BF2: Project Reality. Really an amazing experience with the integrated mumble support.

    OMG! You are my men,kudos! I gave yearh and half to Project Reality,really best mod ever. DTS,one of the best stealth games,even as it is quite basic in gameplay.


    For unknown reason even STALKER:Soc is stuttering like hell,without complete,on highest or lowest settings,can't bother anymore to fix it so i'm searching for alternatives.

    There is Boiling Point,but it was buggy as hell,animals tend to fly in this game ahah crazy shit :D There is also something on X,from same devs who made Boiling Point,need to google it out.
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