So in other words it's just as bad as The Force Unleashed? Wait, scratch that, it's worse since TFU didn't use GFWL. I loved DS, I played the hell out of it on my 360 and was looking forward to doing it all over again, but the more I hear about it the more I think it's getting pushed back to be a Steam sale purchase instead.Originally Posted by Unaco
You do realize that the developers haven't actually said anything major about this port, other than a couple of small quotes, which I think were translated from a Japanese forum? The situation only sounds worse and worse every day because Unaco and folks have convinced themselves that this is a personal insult to PC gamers and that it WILL be the worst port ever, no matter what anyone might say to the contrary.
I reiterate: Nobody has seen the PC version in action yet, and it isn't out for almost another quarter of a year.
oh, ffs. I can see why EA et al lie like motherfuckers and let their PR guys handle everything.
The interview where most of the DS info came from was a dev answering questions in a totally honest way about exactly what they are doing with the resources they have available and what customers should expect. I'm thinking it would have been better if he had kept his mouth shut, or gave some generic PR cleared answers.
If the game plays EXACTLY the same as the console version then it will be a great addition to the PC game catalog. And if there are a few nice extras, like better AA/1080/>30fps, then whoohoo!
I already bought the PS3 version, but all the ways they're dropping the ball make me glad i bought it secondhand.
Wow. Retroactively proud of ripping off the developers because of vague rumors that the PC port may only be slightly better than the console versions.
PC fanboys really are the absolute worst. Not even the most rabid and obnoxious 360 or PS3 console-warriors are as bad.
Yet, you were saying on the previous page that it's the prettiest version of the game, better than the console, showing off the texture work. So, have people seen the PC version in action or not?
I wondered how long before that word was used. Can we get a new analogue to Godwin's law... but for f**b**?
And, are 2nd hand purchases really considered 'ripping off the developer' these days? Really? What about if I played the game on my friends console and their copy? Did I steal the game from the Devs?
The PC version might be the prettiest, bestest version of the game... But that won't make it a 'PC version'. The PC platform is significantly different from the consoles. It offers different opportunities and possibilities (much better high end hardware for example), but at the same time requires different considerations and different approaches (broad range of hardware used, customisability, options etc). Making a PC port without embracing those opportunities and considerations shows that they don't understand or really care about the platform... they're pushing the game onto PC because they see X additional sales and want to do as little as possible to get those sales.
Now, they might have heard the uproar when GFWL (among other things) was revealed, and might be making changes for the PC version, but they haven't told us if they are. If they're doing some custom PC stuff, why not tell us about it, put our minds at ease after the initial announcements and the apprehension that they created? For me, their silence confirms the suspicions that they're just going to try and push the port through, and standard as they can, rather than embracing the port and making a really good job of it.
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Console loyalties lie in personal investment, so do PC loyalties, but console loyalties are 10 years old at best, but pc? It's fo' life.
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Stop trolling please. Those are very bad quality 1280x720 screenshots.
They've already confirmed there will be more than one resolution to select, the 'no resolution change' meant the textures wouldn't be upgraded.
It's coming directly from a dev from my understanding, and while there may be confusion in the translation it's still not a very pretty thought. I'd rather assume the worst and hope for the best than assume the best and be disappointed in the end.
I could care less about graphics, for me it's all about the FPS. Honestly if I could play games like ArmA on my 360 at 60+ FPS I'd be all over that instead. If the game plays exactly like the console versions at 30FPS, then I'd rather just spend $10 on the DLC for the 360 instead of dropping $40+ and having to start a new character. 30FPS just is not enough for me, and that's why I'm on this side of the fence when it comes to gaming.
"Ripping off the developers?" They already got their money. Just not from me. Would you rather the game have sat unplayed on the shelf of someone who clearly did not enjoy it enough to keep it? (Or in the trash, considering I found it at Goodwill of all places) And I fail to see how buying a game on a console makes me a PC fanboy, but it's pretty clear that you're going to flame anyone and everyone that has a different opinion than you.
Last edited by sabrage; 03-06-2012 at 08:14 PM.
We couldn't care less for console standards, we care for PC standards. It might be way better than console versions, it will still be completely unacceptable for PC.
What you're saying is basically This part of dog excrements stinks a bit less than the other parts! If you're not happy with eating it then you won't be happy at all!
PS.
I won't even start with this part.
Last edited by Tres; 04-06-2012 at 12:33 AM.
Imagine your favourite ever film was only available to watch on DVD. Yet you only own a blu-ray player and HD tv.
Would you refuse to watch it?
I would if it had GFWL.
I fail to see the analogy, care to elaborate.
1. DS isn't my favorite movie, nor favorite game. I haven't even played it.
2. DS is a game that yet has to convince me to spend even a minute playing it, not to mention buying it. So far it's really not doing too well in this aspect.
Last edited by Tres; 04-06-2012 at 12:58 AM.
Well, it's one of my favourite games. So I'm glad everyone now gets a chance to play it regardless of platform. It may not be a brilliant port, a good port, or even an acceptable port, but as the original was so godamned good (I can offer nothing but anecdote here), this is still a good thing.
To go back to the analogy, if I were to show you said movie, (being one of my favourites and being evangelical about it) and you didn't like it, fine. If you didn't like it because it wasn't on blu-ray, then I don't get that kind of thinking.
To be honest, if you're not convinced to spend even a minute, why are you still in this thread and not reading about other things you are interested in?
@Sabrage: Really? I just don't understand that. I mean, I've put up with GfWL to play DoW:II. It was annoying, and irritating, and took ages to install. Would I prefer the game didn't have it? Absolutely. Did I still love the game. Yes. Would I have missed out on all that fun if I had boycotted it just due to GfWL? Yes.
My point being that the Blu-Ray vs DVD argument only really holds up in terms of visual fidelity. This port is heaping 5 other layers of bullshit on top of that. If Blu-Ray had come charging in with a significant step back in terms of interface, it would've been crucified.
Problem with GFWL is that it tends to corrupt save data for some people, with no apparent logic behind it.
So, while it may not be that big of an issue for some games (it's still a horrible issue, but recoverable), if I were to lose my Dark Souls data after playing it for a considerable amount of time, I'd commit genocide.
In your scenario I don't like it, because it's a VHS-quality movie released as proper Blu-ray and priced as such.
I'm here giving this game a chance to interest me. In fact I would be interested on default in normal situation just because there are so few good melee fighting games out there (well, in fact just one, Mount&Blade). So far not only it didn't but also even managed to irritate me if it indeed has a fixed resolution. Not to even mention fixed FPS or lack of optimization for mouse and keyboard.To be honest, if you're not convinced to spend even a minute, why are you still in this thread and not reading about other things you are interested in?
But if that is still the only way to watch said movie, it's still worth it no?
I guess all I'm trying to say is that demon's/dark souls are both on my mythical, rarely sumonned all time top ten list of video games, and I'd urge everyone to try it, who doesn't have a console.
From my perspective, the original version was 10/10, and this version, whilst clearly could have been much better, still can't be any worse than the original, so it's going to be brilliant.
I'm just trying to separate the quality of the port and the quality of the game. In this case the game is so good, its worth it as long as they just make the thing work on a PC.
But this is the Internet, and you are perfectly entitled to your own opinions, and your concerns are perfectlly valid, and i share most of them, its just we've come to different conclusions, and clearly no-one here is actually going to change either sides mind about this.
I guess, as someone who bought the original DS purely on reccomendation (an awful lot of them it has to be said) its a question of faith, as much as anything else.
@heister/rauten: ah well that's fair enough. Any way you can back them up for DS? Like using Dropbox or something?
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