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    Outlander

    A sassy WW2 nurse time travels to the Scottish highlands of 1743. Cue adventure and romance.
    It has a clunky start but four episodes in, I kinda want to read the books it's based on... It's so charming and the lead actress is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKicksalot View Post
    Outlander

    A sassy WW2 nurse time travels to the Scottish highlands of 1743. Cue adventure and romance.
    It has a clunky start but four episodes in, I kinda want to read the books it's based on... It's so charming and the lead actress is awesome.
    Oh man. My wife and I are obsessed with this show. Even I'm starting to fall under the spell of the hunky Scotsmen.

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    Kind of a dark episode for Doctor Who on Sunday, I think the 'heaven' is for people who were killed by him which he'll be confronted by later.

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    Didn't know about Outlander, one to look out for. Found some UK newspaper coverage of it, I didn't know the books were quite such a thing either.

    Figures that the UK newspaper culture pages didn't get past line one before (very lazily) labelling it 'the new Game Of Thrones'

    So far no UK channel has bought it, though my bet would be on Sky.

    EDIT: I also love the quote in that piece from Orange Is The New Black S2 where Taystee explains the book: "Lady travels back in time to Scotland … hooks up with this big, sexy outlaw type, and they be gettin’ it day in and day out. Yo, it’s hot!”"
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    Really liked the second episode of Doctor Who, Ben Wheatley showed more of his weirder side with that going through the Dalek and the episode was beautifully shot a lot better then last weeks very definite "house style" direction. The Doctor is really cold and dark as ever which is interesting and very surprising especially coming from two Doctors that were very much about the feels, but Capaldi definitly does have the fun elements to counter-act it enough. Clara is even a lot better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xercies View Post
    Really liked the second episode of Doctor Who, Ben Wheatley showed more of his weirder side with that going through the Dalek and the episode was beautifully shot a lot better then last weeks very definite "house style" direction. The Doctor is really cold and dark as ever which is interesting and very surprising especially coming from two Doctors that were very much about the feels, but Capaldi definitly does have the fun elements to counter-act it enough. Clara is even a lot better!
    Couldn't agree more. I haven't enjoyed an episode of Doctor Who so much in a long time. I was drifted in and out of the show in the Matt Smith years but with Capaldi it's a must-watch again. Glad too that they seem to have jettisoned the romance angle early on, it never sat well with me.

    I've always liked Capaldi but this has made me realise quite what a superb actor he is, he's working the line between darkness and fun brilliantly.

    I watched the first one with my friend's young kids who only know the Doctor as Matt Smith and they were bored and confused by all the talky-talk and didn't like the scary old Scottish man at all. Next one's a Robin Hood romp which may win them back.


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    My main thought while watching the latest Dr Who was please could Channel 4 commission a show with the working title "Tyres and Vod go on a bender."

    Apart from the good Doctor I've also been watching.

    Archer - Wasn't sure at first but I think it was the running gag about the size of Lana's hands that maybe kept me watching (I'm a sucker for running gags, something for which I blame Robert Rankin). Glad I did, while it's a bit variable it's a nice bitesize non demanding program and once it gave the characters at least a few redeeming qualities instead of the all being absolutely horrible it found its groove nicely.

    Orphan Black - Can't remember if I mentioned this or not as I haven't posted in a while. Still no harm in mentioning again just how brilliant it is.

    24: Live Another Day - Best series of 24 since 5 wasn't it? Fun stuff.

    Currently watching: Utopia - Only watched the first episode so far. Looks like it's going to be interesting. As a bit of a side note to the whole conspiracy stuff it made me realise how rare it is for this type of show (or indeed many shows, except comedies about teens which always play it for cringe value) to show main characters being laughably terrible at sex. Kind of refreshing in a way. Plus good to say Jamie from The Thick of It stayed in politics!

    X Factor Every now and again I start watching it again (sue me!) and given that boring, boring tax avoider Gary Barlow has pissed off now seemed as good a time as any. The first live show will probably decide whether I'm in for the long haul. To watch it I require; some sort of judging spat, one or two novelty acts. as few vaguely competent cruise ship style acts as possible, somebody inexplicably terrible that nobody knows how they got through, Louis Walsh to be as clueless as ever (think that's a given), one act that has some quirk that makes them divide everyone's opinion (don't mind what side I'm on), a couple of actually talented people. Have that in the live shows and I'll stick with it As an example series 5 and 7 were the vintage years; 5 because of some actual quality acts (Burke, JLS, Vickers; I'm not really a fan of the vast majority of their work but they do actually have talent) and 7 because the success of Jedward in series 6 (whose only other notable moments were just how forgettable eventual winner Joe McEldery was and the comic value of the over the top announce saying the name "Eoghan Quigg") led to so many excellent novelty acts most notably the wonderful Wagner. Never forget the bongos.

    On the to watch list: The 2nd and 3rd series of the Danish version of The Killing, Broadchurch, Inside no 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambchops View Post
    My main thought while watching the latest Dr Who was please could Channel 4 commission a show with the working title "Tyres and Vod go on a bender."
    You need to get a job, Doctor, or whatever your name isn't!

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    I did want to scream out "OH MY GOD IT'S VOD!" but then I realised no-one else in the room would know who I was talking about. Then Tyres came along to seal the deal. And now I'll be upset that Vod won't be a companion.

    Fun fact about the 'big hands' joke in Archer; in case you weren't aware, Lana is very closely modelled after Aisha Tyler. And she does, in fact, have big hands. Shocking stuff. Also, by the end of episode 7 (specifically) I want you to come on here and transcribe the entire script because all of it is amazing. All of it.
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    I am not as convinced by Capaldi as everyone else seems to be.
    He's not bad. But everyone keeps going on about him being an amazing actor, and based on only 2 episodes of Who I can't see it. He's just randomly switching between grumpy and nice, funny and dramatic.
    Of course, that's what the last 2 doctors did too, but just not quite so grumpy.

    Then again, the first few Matt Smith episodes were the same. I'm sure he'll do fine.
    I just find it a bit odd that certain people online who were always complaining about Matt Smith now think Capaldi is the best thing since sliced bread, despite him doing exactly the same schtick, but just a bit more mean.

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    I don't think it's necessarily the sort of personality they have to act, but the lines they're given and how they deliver it. The lines Capaldi has been given are so far, pretty good, and his grumpy scot delivery is something people obviously have an appetite for, greater than eccentric english twerp, even if they're both variants on that 'flip between grumpy and nice' archetype. I liked Smith's doctor plenty! But... he was given a very large share of very bad episodes and less than impressive dialogue to work with.

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    I think you've nailed it there Serene when it comes to delivery. I forgot who it was, I think Neil Gaiman, who said that when he wrote one of his episodes, he tried imagining how each Doctor would deliver that line and what differences there would be. A great example from this episode would be right at the beginning when The Doctor says "Try again" to the person he rescued. His tone and body language was super on point and got across a very clear personality aspect. It's very easy to hear that line said by Tenant or Smith and know how different it would be.
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    Yeah the one thing I'm really glad is that this Doctor just feels so much different, it took a few episodes for both David Tennant and Matt Smith to become their unique Doctors but Capaldi did it in one and is now just laying the groundwork. Also I do get scared when Capaldi shouts and goes aggressive I never did with the other two.

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    The Outer Limits is really something. I watched the first 6 episodes and they are all great. Not sure if some look derivative or if the episodes came before the things they refer to. Even watched in a vacuum they still hold up very well, and surpass most modern sci-fi. It's like that perfect combination of script, acting and eye candy, except there's a lot of them. The effects don't look as laughable as I expect.

    Amazingly, I recognize at least one actor in each one. It's either Uncle Ben from Sam Raimi's Spiderman, the doctor from NCIS, Martin Landau, that guy with the Fez from Casablanca, you name it.
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    "but Capaldi did it in one". In two, because in the first episode he basically just rambled a lot and only really pulled himself together in the last few minutes.

    He's clearly being set as being more dark than the last 2 doctors. But I find that makes the mood switches more jarring at times. Tennant/Smith were switching between comedy "i have no idea what I'm doing' and heroic 'lets save the world', but Capaldi is switching between grumpy 'i don't care' and comedy "i have no idea what I'm doing' and heroic 'lets save the world'.

    But, as you said, it'll take a few episodes for him to establish himself. I don't find him bad at all, I just don't find him dramatically different.
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    So, one episode to go on *Penny Dreadful* and I have a similar vibe to Orphan Black about it. They both really grabbed me at the beginning, with a charismatic main female lead, and they've both sort of lost my interest over time. Both with too much going on, leading to not much of weight happening.

    I'm going to call it the Anime Effect. Where the first few shows hint at something really awesome going on, and then the finale is disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillButNotBen View Post
    So, one episode to go on *Penny Dreadful* and I have a similar vibe to Orphan Black about it. They both really grabbed me at the beginning, with a charismatic main female lead, and they've both sort of lost my interest over time. Both with too much going on, leading to not much of weight happening.

    I'm going to call it the Anime Effect. Where the first few shows hint at something really awesome going on, and then the finale is disappointing.
    Despite its convoluted and somewhat nonsensical plotting, I find Orphan Black enthralling just because the characters are so much fun. In both seasons, I found myself looking forward to each episode late in the season just as much as I did in the beginning. But yeah; it's hard to argue that OB's storylines make much sense. (It has a problem with making its villains' motivations incredibly unclear.)

    Penny Dreadful just has a ton of atmosphere, and it's content to meander on weird pathways or spend an entire episode on a flashback to give backstory to just one character. I don't know if that justifies the somewhat strange plotting, or the season's somewhat underwhelming climax, but it's very well-executed and distinctive. Plus, the first season was only 8 episodes, so it wasn't much of a time commitment. I'm pretty picky about what shows I'll watch, primarily because there's only so many hours in the day. It's hard to get any writing done when I'm watching TV. ;)

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    Yeah, the Penny Dreadful finale was good, but a little anticlimactic after all the build up. And INCREDIBLY predictable. It's dripping in atmosphere, and willing to be pretty gory/sexy/etc.. at times, but under the surface it turned out to be very predictable and basically a story we've all seen before.
    I think I actually preferred it at the beginning before I realised that we were basically doing the horror classics, which made it much more predictable.

    I wonder if Orphan Black suffered a bit because I watched through it all in one go, rather than on a weekly basis. I agree that the characters were fun, but at times they became a little wearing. Maybe if they'd been spread out over a few months then they'd have been less so.

    I did appreciate that each series wasn't too long, as I also don't have time to commit to too many shows.

    It's interesting to compare both to something like Arrow. Arrow is nothing special. It's your basic hero show that we've all seen before. But over both series they built up to impressive dramatic endings. I felt that Orphan Black and Penny Dreadful did the opposite, they started out really fresh and strong and then kind of lost that momentum and freshness over the course of a series.

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    Halfway through Agents of Shield and it's really... not very good. It's a very strange show. At first it seems like a typical monster-of-the-week type of affair but it's about as pedestrian as it gets. They aren't even monsters, just slightly more powerful people. Most of the time they don't do even do anything special. Back in my day they would have barely qualified for the X files.
    Then there is the entirely forgettable cast. I don't even remember their names which is always a bad sign. Well, let's see. There is Agent Coulson, who is kind of cool, Newcomer Hacking Goddess, Male Fashion Model, No Fun Lady, Ambiguously British Science Duo - and Lola. I think that's all of them.
    In conclusion, Arrow is a much better show (as long as it doesn't do romance) and while it is cheesy as hell, it's never boring.
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    AoS gets better around the 10/11 episode mark. Note: better, not great. From 16/17 to the end though it goes full on ham and is very entertaining, even if the quality isn't completely there yet. Annoyingly, something that happens in that last run of episodes retroactively makes the crappier part of the series more interesting (but still not better).

    There's also the fact that a lot of communities are rallying around referring to Agent Ward as, well, this. In terms of the show as a whole, let me put it this way; I stopped watching AoS even after admitting it was "cheesy Saturday morning fun". When I heard it got better, I got back in and mentally hardened myself for a couple of duds before I could ease up and genuinely start enjoying it. By the last episode of the season I was legitimately enjoying it and now am rather looking forward to s2, which seems to have a more solid production team around it. It's also possible that it'll tie into Agent Carter, which'll air between the two halfs of AoS, but that's just my speculation.
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    Finshed re-watching Lost season 4 which is definitly an improvement over Season 3 and is quite intriguing actually, by doing the Flashforwards they are able to tell a few more stories about the chaarcters which they did run out of in Season 3. Also the whole Freighter storyline is very tense and intriguing. I think it also benefits from the shorter season as there isn't as much filler. Also it has the Constant which made me cry...again. Looking forward to Season 5.

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