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    Eh I actually didn't like the episode to much, I don't think it was funny enough and outside of the aesthetic it didn't really do much with it. i think I still prefer when Futurama did it because it was a lot funnier and did it in a really good way. The other episodes was great and have been first hearing about this Harmen issue and hope he stays otherwise Community wouldn't be Community without him.

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    Yeah, I didn't find it to be a great episode either. I don't think the script was that good and - as with animated Xmas special - the cast seem to struggle with voice acting. However I was still happy because the writers yet again pushed the boundaries of what a sitcom can/should be and because it was nice to see Dan Harmon's love of Minecraft showing a small influence.
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    I'm a bit neurotic about watching shows that I get into from the start, so I'm still trying to get caught up on Bones (even though I have come to hate that smug bitch).

    Then I'm about to finish up S1 of Eureka.

    After that, eager to dive into Mad Men from the start.

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    Yep Harmon is out and probably the worst people ever are in and they want to "broaden the shows appeal" so goodbye community you were fun while you lasted

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    Meh, last few episodes haven't been that funny really, so either I have started to grow tired of community, or it might have started losing steam in its own?

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    I watch a Japanese anime Mardock Scramble. I know its 1st episode has been released in the west, out of 3 episodes planned.

    A cyberpunk title, about a young prostitute, Balot (a child prostitute in mange, they increased her age so that they can display nudity in anime without breaking child porn law) got murdered by a serial killer, Shell. She was subsequently revived by a doctor, Dr. Easter, who currently made a living by working as private investigator, by transforming her into a cyborg. Turn out the doctor was under contract by the government prosecutor who wanted to nail down this very serial killer who had murdered 6 other prostitutes. The doctor promised the girl that they can share 50-50 on government bounty by securing a guilty verdict against the killer, and assigned a AI in the form of a mouse to assist her. The issue is, Shell, in order to ensure no prosecutor could be after him, erased his very own memories of his crimes, and stored them in some mainframes, so that he could truthfully deny his crime in the court, that's how private investigator like Dr. Easter would be hired, to see if he could figured out a way to prove the killer guilty.

    Turn out Shell chose to go after the prostitutes for more practical reason than just being a pervert. He laundered money for a large corporation, the October, which conducted illegal business in developing forbidden technologies over human body enhancement. The money laundry operations involved setting bogus bank accounts in the name of those prostitutes without their knowledge, and once a particular job was done, that particular prostitue whose identity was stolen for the bank account must be gone for good, i.e. murdered (of course, after being banged). The practical reason he targeted prostitutes was that prostitutes are underdogs of the society. If they are gone, police just won't give a damn. They won't truly go other the killer. In one scene, two cops interrogated Balot on site back in an occasion when she was still a human being, and when learnt that she was violated by her father in the age of 12, they simply left her alone, as they weren't pursuing any charges against this underdog anyway. Actually, all the government prosecutor cared about was the financial crime, which he held no proof against, so in stead then he pursued the murder charge against Shell, now that he got a "live" witness Balot, as her cyborgization had been authorized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpier View Post
    Meh, last few episodes haven't been that funny really, so either I have started to grow tired of community, or it might have started losing steam in its own?
    Well you're welcome to your opinion, but the last three episodes of the Community season were great. The 8bit minecraft/nintendo tribute episode was very memorable, also a beautifully done 'oh its britta' heist and then the final episode was nicely emotional without losing its 'crooked wang' sense of humour. A Harmon-led final season would have been immense, but I'll take 3 full seasons of this quality.

    Looking forward to what Harmon does next, his Adult Swim pilot will be interesting at the very least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabrage View Post
    Are you a senior citizen?
    Close enough - 20.

    I'll never understand how people can like Doctor Who. It couldn't be more blatantly for kids and is just so... silly. Many other terms I could use to describe it including but not limited to: cheesy, childish, badly acted, terrible CGI, terrible make-up and costume design, and so on but I think silly sums it up best. I'm actually a fan of sci fi, and I think it sullies sci fi's good name.

    But hey, to each their own and all that.
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    Ignoring the quality of the show for a moment - If you don't find anything remarkable about the existence of an action hero who defeats his enemies by thinking, I can't help you. There is nothing more English than Doctor Who.

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    Perhaps there's something enjoyable about this silly? I think one of the most commonly used terms to describe Dr. Who is fun. People like seeing an adventure and when you stop to think about it, there aren't really many shows, or even films, that week-in-week-out are an adventure, especially one that is far more enjoyable than not. You say cheesy, I say endearing. You say childish, I say light hearted. You say badly acted...well, actually, I'm a bit stumped by that one. Other than the direction of the earlier 'new Who', I can't say that it has on the whole been badly performed.

    Most critically though, you say it sullies sci fi's good name? Couldn't disagree more. Dr. Who has always been pushing new ideas, looking at things from a wide-lens perspective to try and incorporate everything. It's certainly not traditionally hard SF, such as 2001, but it's a lot more consistent than say, Star Trek. Some of it isn't even said, just shown to you with dioramas of landscapes, or the very conception of time being presented differently.

    EDIT: Also, what Drake said.
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    Indian ocean with simon reeve and re watching chuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by The JG Man View Post
    Perhaps there's something enjoyable about this silly? I think one of the most commonly used terms to describe Dr. Who is fun. People like seeing an adventure and when you stop to think about it, there aren't really many shows, or even films, that week-in-week-out are an adventure, especially one that is far more enjoyable than not. You say cheesy, I say endearing. You say childish, I say light hearted. You say badly acted...well, actually, I'm a bit stumped by that one. Other than the direction of the earlier 'new Who', I can't say that it has on the whole been badly performed.

    Most critically though, you say it sullies sci fi's good name? Couldn't disagree more. Dr. Who has always been pushing new ideas, looking at things from a wide-lens perspective to try and incorporate everything. It's certainly not traditionally hard SF, such as 2001, but it's a lot more consistent than say, Star Trek. Some of it isn't even said, just shown to you with dioramas of landscapes, or the very conception of time being presented differently.

    EDIT: Also, what Drake said.
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    God its night and day between tennent and matt storylines. The overall arc of matts is a mess but individuel episodes are pretty strong especially the second half of season 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidian View Post
    Close enough - 20.

    I'll never understand how people can like Doctor Who. It couldn't be more blatantly for kids and is just so... silly. Many other terms I could use to describe it including but not limited to: cheesy, childish, badly acted, terrible CGI, terrible make-up and costume design, and so on but I think silly sums it up best. I'm actually a fan of sci fi, and I think it sullies sci fi's good name.

    But hey, to each their own and all that.
    I'm not a Doctor Who fan, but if "silly" to you is a self-evidently negative adjective, there's the problem! Just a matter of taste, but some of us like silliness :)
    Not all silliness of course. But good silly things can be charming and fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Sigar View Post
    Ignoring the quality of the show for a moment - If you don't find anything remarkable about the existence of an action hero who defeats his enemies by thinking, I can't help you. There is nothing more English than Doctor Who.
    I like intelligent plans and battles of wit but I haven't seen anything remotely close to that in Doctor Who. Sherlock comes a lot closer to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by The JG Man View Post
    Perhaps there's something enjoyable about this silly? I think one of the most commonly used terms to describe Dr. Who is fun. People like seeing an adventure and when you stop to think about it, there aren't really many shows, or even films, that week-in-week-out are an adventure, especially one that is far more enjoyable than not. You say cheesy, I say endearing. You say childish, I say light hearted. You say badly acted...well, actually, I'm a bit stumped by that one. Other than the direction of the earlier 'new Who', I can't say that it has on the whole been badly performed.

    Most critically though, you say it sullies sci fi's good name? Couldn't disagree more. Dr. Who has always been pushing new ideas, looking at things from a wide-lens perspective to try and incorporate everything. It's certainly not traditionally hard SF, such as 2001, but it's a lot more consistent than say, Star Trek. Some of it isn't even said, just shown to you with dioramas of landscapes, or the very conception of time being presented differently.

    EDIT: Also, what Drake said.
    As I said, to each their own. I must say, though, that these are similar arguments I hear when people defend My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (a show a lot of adult males who call themselves 'bronies' actually like, and claim it isn't for children or indeed childish - it's fun! It's light hearted!), another show I dislike for vaguely similar reasons. See also: One Piece.
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    I don't really see a problem with people liking My Little Pony. I don't watch it myself, but I remember reading a quote from its producer going they wanted to make a fun show, not a show for children. It's like how The Simpsons, originally anyhow, had jokes for older and younger people, there's something there for everyone. Dr. Who caters in a similar fashion.

    That being said, I take issue with you saying that there isn't intelligence or battles of wit. Take for instance the conclusion to the two-parter that opened the latest season. The Doctor basically defeated the enemy by letting them take themselves down, using their own vehicle to deliver the method to do so. Also, it's not just about solving a mystery, although obviously they're present a lot of the time. Sometimes it's as simple as just experiencing the scenario.
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    I thought that if anything you'd think my comparison to MLP was outrageous, a show that I don't think could be any more purposefully aimed at 7 year old girls, with absolutely no maturity in it at all no matter how deep into it 'bronies' search, but even that you don't see as childish. Oh well.. Doctor Who isn't for me, but I wish you the best and hope you continue to enjoy it. Good day, sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidian View Post
    I like intelligent plans and battles of wit but I haven't seen anything remotely close to that in Doctor Who. Sherlock comes a lot closer to it.
    This is an issue of quality again. You still concede that he defeats his enemies with his mind, yes? Then my point stands.

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    I'd been operating on the assumption that people who claim My Little Pony is awesome are the people who are not coincidentally partaking in the inhalation of 'wacky-baccy' (as I believe the youngsters call it). If you watch that cartoon and think it's good and aren't high.. well I'm not going to throw insults at you, but take what you like from the fact I'm having to restrain myself from doing so.
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    Thank goodness I'm too old to worry about if people think my tastes are childish or not.

    Dr. Who rocks. I first watched it back in the 80's when Tom Baker was on US reruns and consider myself a lifelong fan.

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