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    Yes and yes.

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    Not for me then.

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    What was wrong with the second season?

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    The writers do a very, very shoddy job when they try to add their own stuff and deviate from the source material. Plus, the gratuitous nudity was a turn off too. It's not that I mind it in series like, say, Spartacus where violence and sex is the whole point. But, in GoT, it just gets in the way of the story, and is more of an annoyance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maknol View Post
    I just finished devouring That Mitchell and Webb Look, as well as TM&W Situation... and I crave more British comedies. Do you good blokes have any suggestions of other shows in the same vein?
    Little Brittain, a bit of Fry and Laurie come to mind.
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    But, in GoT, it just gets in the way of the story, and is more of an annoyance.
    Some people have said the point of those scenes are that so a bit of forshadowing or important conversation is hidden behind lesbians having sex.

    The writers do a very, very shoddy job when they try to add their own stuff and deviate from the source material.
    Eh I actually think they did a pretty good job, the one thing I didn't like was the end of Arya story but I did enjoy Tywin and Arya scenes. Also Brans story is something they definitly didn't do well but I can see why not most of Brans stuff is inside his head which is very hard to do on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xercies View Post
    Some people have said the point of those scenes are that so a bit of forshadowing or important conversation is hidden behind lesbians having sex.
    I figure you're just throwing out an example without really thinking about it, because the 'lesbians having sex' sounds like it could only be from an episode at the back end of season 1, where two whores practise their craft on each other as Littlefinger instructs them. This scene is the worst scene in the franchise thus far not because it isn't in the book, but because Littlefinger proceeds to go on a maniacal rant and basically scream from the hilltops 'I'M EVIL!' during a time when the audience is supposed to be struggling to figure him out, and right before his twist ending that now surprises noone.

    Worst writing I've seen since Glenn got shoved down a well in The Walking Dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timofee View Post
    Up to season 4 of The Middle, glad I went back to watch this as I missed it at the first time of asking largely because the only thing familiar about it was Neil Flynn and I wasn't confident he could carry a comedy.
    I've been enjoying it too. There really aren't any modern sitcoms I particularly care for (even less American ones I can't deny), but The Middle has grown on me quite a bit. At first I didn't think it was so good and kept thinking to myself: "Well I'm enjoying it, but I wonder what it would be like if they took the characters and made them funny?" Well, they did. Sue and Brick especially are a delight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maknol View Post
    I just finished devouring That Mitchell and Webb Look, as well as TM&W Situation... and I crave more British comedies. Do you good blokes have any suggestions of other shows in the same vein?
    Well I'm not a bloke, but if you don't mind me presuming to reply too... :P

    Good British sketch shows you may like:
    Big Train. (By the writer of Father Ted and the IT Crowd, starring Simon Pegg.)
    Jam. (Very surreal and weird.)
    The Fast Show. (Classic character led sketch show.)
    Smack the Pony. (Likewise, and at times rather surreal)
    Bruiser. (An earlier Mitchell and Webb starring series)
    Horrible Histories. (Aimed at kids but utterly brilliant historical sketch show).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane View Post
    The writers do a very, very shoddy job when they try to add their own stuff and deviate from the source material. Plus, the gratuitous nudity was a turn off too. It's not that I mind it in series like, say, Spartacus where violence and sex is the whole point. But, in GoT, it just gets in the way of the story, and is more of an annoyance.
    It's an adaptation. Half the books are about characters thinking things, which frankly does translate that well to television (no ones going to tune in to 50 minutes of people looking ponderous in fancy costumes). I'm not saying the shows perfect, but like Xercies overall I'd say they're doing a good job at bringing it to life as much as they can ,given the limitations of the medium as well as the (pretty generous) budget HBO have given them.
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    I would say its a miracle to be honest that the TV show is getting the budget that it is I mean I could never imagine anyone spending millions on each episode for something like Game Of Thrones...especially since you can't really do product placement in it which I've heard is where TV and HBO in particular gets a lot of its money as well as subscriptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    It's an adaptation... given the limitations of the medium as well as the (pretty generous) budget HBO have given them.
    I know that. It's not I want the writers to accommodate every element of the books, but only that the elements they add by themselves should be of the same high standard which I feel isn't the case.

    And as for the budget, well, after seeing the Blackwater battle it seems that porn movies have better production values.

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    I have no idea how they could do Blackwater any differently, I thought it was a good adaptation of the book. The amount of work that went into that scene was insane and to do any more would have breached an already massive budget.
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    It was like watching a console game, no more than fifteen soldiers on the screen at any point of time.

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    What did you expect for them to do? A big birds eye view over the battle field full of CGI soldiers? There where plenty of scenes with more than enough soldiers to fill the screen and give you the feeling of being in the heart of the battle.

    Also while guys like Tolkien and Martin have all the resources in the world to have 10,000 men fighting each other because they don't have to pay anyone to show up and fight, tv doesn't. And if you expected a LOTR CGI style fight out of a tv shows budget you're just asking for way too much.
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    Spartacus was made on a shoestring budget and pulled off a MUCH better battle than Blackwater in the last episode. It was better than most movie battles, actually. I like Neil Marshall but whoever directed the Spartacus finale shat all over Game of Thrones. It had a better sense of scale, a lot of crazy action mini-setpieces and the action was much better shot. The flow of the battle was flawless.

    The ship explosion in Blackwater is still the best CGI setpiece in a TV show.
    The thing I don't understand about GoT is why the action is so shitty. It improved since the first season - which was Marcus Nispel wtf-am-I-watching-quality - but it's still poorly shot and edited.
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    I watched some of it and it really doesn't look that good at all. The characters look and sound pretty ridiculous, especially the girl and the armour she's wearing. Plus it looks like they just wanted to make the 300 battle in TV show form, and so they used slo mo and screaming. In GoT it's a bit more actually what a battle would be like - at least it's meant to be more grounded, it's not glamarously gory like Spartacus, with rippling abbed soldiers cutting down people in slow motion.
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    Well, HBO should hire Neil Marshall to direct every episode because he's a good director. He doesn't shake the camera like a retard and he doesn't cut the action 60 times per second.
    GoT and most TV action is hard to follow. Spartacus always has a clear sense of geography and is very easy to follow, even when it's cut fast like the above. Maybe that's just Kiwi magic at work. The crew has experience from Xena/Hercules and the Peter Jackson epics, after all.
    Or maybe everyone else adheres to a stupid action moviemaking philosophy. I don't believe shaking the camera, showing a single sword slash from three angles in real time and poor, seemingly improvised framing makes a scene more energetic, real and raw.

    Hopefully this rig and the new handheld stabilizer revealed 10 days ago will lead to better, more clear action across the board.

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    A lot of the shots just rely on slow motion though and it just wouldn't work in GoT. Spartacus is really hard to take seriously, it's just barely clothed men and women fighting and looking awesome. There's nothing really wrong with that, but to apply it to every TV show would be ass, and certainl wouldn't fit outside of Game of Thrones. Something like this in Game of Thrones would just be awful:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...v9Ncc5TE#t=56s
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    What a lovely green screen landscape.

    Though that scene brings up something important. The battle in GoT (at least the show) was contained to a harbour and then a single gate out of the city into that harbour. That scene linked from Spartacus takes place on a big green screen'ed plain of dirt and sky. Most of the army looks cgi and some of them look like they're just shuffling back and forth.

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