Plus EA ain't done shit yet.
And I dont use Steam.
Kind of wondering why tags I didn't associate with this thread are now attached to it.
Anyway, thank you for seeing that point squirrel.
I think people are simply to complacent for their own good. How did governments get to be the corrupted mess it is now? People not speaking up and just accepting it at face value. Large corporations are the same way.
Keep saying it's okay to things such as this and the consumer will simply keep getting reared with an uneasy smile. EA and others have gotten away with as much as they have because people allow it. Soon consumers will have no rights, especially if we continue give up our right to legal action.
Edit: Question was answered.
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EDIT: Also I sure as hell hope you didn't add "theft" because theft != copyright infringement, which is what this would actually be. Seriously this whole theft = CI has to stop.
Last edited by soldant; 22-04-2012 at 02:35 AM. Reason: Pay attention.
Would you consider waiving your right to sue okay? Something like sky diving, yes it's understandable. Something like a company dealing with digital entertainment and message boards? Why should companies like Sony and EA be allowed to do that on the broad terms they have set?
As far as UGC, yes, most of it has zero value. As for the stuff that doesn't? It's perfectly okay for a someone to take credit for it? Do you know how many hours can go into a single model or texture? Do you know how many hours can go into creating and mixing a song?
There's a pretty simple test you can apply to it. Remove everything you didn't do yourself, and if what's left no longer works, then you can't claim it's entirely your work. It's not really a new concept, what with having been around since the invention of the printing press and patent system.
I'm done. I don't know how people can miss the point of what I was trying to say. The inherent flaws with wording like that, and the abuse that can result from. If a majority wants to think it's alright for the possibility to exist, then great. If a majority wants to think it can't happen, then fine.
You can't steal an idea. It's not a good.
The two quoted bits seem to contradict each other anyway.
The first is the scary bit, as it claims ownership over everything you create. That is a big deal (you could even maybe call it theft) as it means that EA own what you create and all the rights to it. That means theoretically that no only can they do what they want with it, but if you go of yourself and try to sell or use it elsewhere, they could sue you. I imagine they'd face major issues getting that to stand-up in a court of law though.
The second is more usual. It just licenses EA to use what you've created wherever they want. The copyright remains entirely with you.
What EA can do is demand a license to use that stuff as they see fit, to protect them in case they have anything similar planned in a sequel or another game. But what they shouldn't be able to do (but seem to be trying to claim as a right) is later sue you for using those assets in your own standalone game.
All print media is just a 'mod' of paper, but the stationary companies don't own Harry Potter.