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Thread: Piracy discussion
16-09-2013, 02:22 PM #1
With the thread closing and talk of bannings and world view moderation I have a question. What is allowed or not allowed when discussing piracy?
Can I admit to piracy openly? I understand it is probably against the rules to link to pirate sites. What about saying things like, "just download the crack, that will fix your problem with this game?"
Basically what is the stance of RPS forum moderators when it comes to piracy discussion? What is allowed?
16-09-2013, 02:25 PM #2
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People have openly discussed it before. Some people get quite angry though. I openly admitted to it and someone told me they'd reported me to FAST. They haven't been in touch yet.
Linking to pirate sites would seem to be not-excellent. If you tell someone to 'download the crack' expect to kick off a huge argument on why they shouldn't have to. But yeah, don't be a dick about it and it's fine.
16-09-2013, 02:26 PM #3
I too would be curious for an official stance. I know I've caught lots of hell for requesting people not link directly to cracks (I would be VERY surprised if that were allowed...), but what about grey areas like "How to get an emulated game to work correctly?". Technically that is (probably) 100% not piracy, but it greatly encourages people to go the extra centimeter and say "By the way, you can get the ROM at BLAH.SUFFIX".
16-09-2013, 02:30 PM #4
Pretty sure you can say you're a pirate and you've pirated games. But if you start linking to pirate material, that's where the site might have to step in so it doesn't look like they're linking to/promoting piracy.
16-09-2013, 02:35 PM #5
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16-09-2013, 02:40 PM #7
Yes, that is completely understandable.
Is an entire domain considered a pirate site? For example, pirate bay... what about a link to a page on pirate bay that is legit? Say for a free game that was uploaded by developers, like McPixel? I don't guess it's important to put up a link anyway, as one could easily say, "that game is available legitimately on pirate bay." and any interested users would google it or whatever.
Is that the rule, then? Discuss, admit, glorify, demean...whatever about piracy, just don't link to pirated material? That is fair.
16-09-2013, 02:41 PM #8
The issue is more the legality issue. While it is not likely legal action would be taken against RPS, it can still influence how various publishers and devs feel about the site (If they think it is a shithole full of pirates, they are less likely to give exclusives and work together for giveaways) and, more importantly, it attracts a really fucking annoying crowd.
But the actual discussion of "being a pirate" almost assuredly isn't an issue. Just don't be an idiot about it. If I say "I like Dungeons and Dragons", no problem. If I run around in every thread and derail every discussion by saying that, it is a problem
16-09-2013, 02:43 PM #9
Unless I hear otherwise, no-linkz-2-warez sounds fine.
I may, however, infract anybody who admits to piracy yet fails to include a "me hearties" or similar sign of authenticity in their post.The Secret of Gargoyle Manor, a browser point-and-click adventure about retrieving your lost hat whatever the cost, is something you could play!
16-09-2013, 02:52 PM #10
17-09-2013, 10:44 AM #11
Depends entirely on context. If it's a game that's no longer available via legitimate means or a workaround to address some technical issue, or that you pirated games when you were a kid I doubt anyone is going to care. Though direct linking to pirate sites is always going to be a no no. Though there is a PM system here. However 'I hate *insert name of dev/publisher* because they *insert perceived grievance* and I'm pirating *insert this/all* games(s) from here on in, might not necessarily get you banned, but it's likely frowned upon.
However the real question is why is it important to inform a bunch of internet strangers that you 'pirated X title'? Beyond grandstanding against 'the man' what purpose does it serve to say 'Oh I pirated that' or 'I'm gonna pirate the shit of that and learn Pete Molyneux a lesson for Fable 1' beyond 'Look at me people I'm so rebellious and cool' Pretty much everyone is here because they enjoy games. I don't doubt a fair few people do pirate games either because they're too broke or to stingy to purchase them and in truth it is what it is.
I think it's generally accepted that a lot of people here pirate TV shows because they're either not available in their country or only available via certain cable subscribers, yet you'd be hard pressed to find people bombing 'the what you been watching thread' with 'Yo, I'm pirating Breaking Bad Bitches FU AMC!!!' Versus discussing the show.
17-09-2013, 10:51 AM #12
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17-09-2013, 12:07 PM #14
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Im pirating games ironically
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17-09-2013, 12:15 PM #16
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I want to share photos of my games from the 80's and 90's (mostly warez). And a screenshot of my Steam account with 600+ games. Having a job is bad for warez :PAbandoned PC gaming for good. Now rest in a better place. psn:Teikman
17-09-2013, 04:26 PM #17
Surely if you wanted to best-compensate a developer in monetary terms (short of just sending them extra money) you'd buy the game from their own DD service and then torrent it to save them fractional currency on their bandwidth bill.
ETHICS OUT THE WAZOO
04-02-2014, 08:01 PM #18
i used to be a pirate when i had too much time on my hands back being a kid. Now, with so little free time for gaming, i have to pick wisely my games, stuff to play with for some months, not few days...and i buy them. Beat that gaming bulimia and you beat piracy, at least for me it worked.
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04-02-2014, 08:20 PM #19
Ignoring the very questionable necro-post from someone who probably just wants to advertise their KS or something...
Can we actually get an official stance on what is and isn't allowed to be discussed?
05-02-2014, 09:06 AM #20