Also, who doesn't own a PC?
Also, who doesn't own a PC?
But of course one should always acknowledge the limits of one's experience with the game. Maybe the path in the dialogue tree not taken boots up Super Mario Bros. 3, who knows?
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Language evolves, but 'mature' is a perfectly good word as is and there are no good alternatives within reach, whereas alternatives for 'delighting in violence, swears, and tits for their own sake' aren't at all difficult to find, e.g. 'adolescent', 'juvenile'. And if I were willing to yield the floor to anyone, it certainly wouldn't be to that "rated M for mature" dipshit.
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Refusing to abandon a word because there is no compelling reason to do so is not 'elitism'.And is elitism something we want in a language?
Which sounds an awful lot like elitism. Your reason for not "abandoning" a word, or allowing another word in place of that word, is that those who do suffer from the confusion aren't worth bothering with.Context disambiguates. Those for whom it doesn't aren't worth bothering with.
Elitism is a good thing. Let's not try to get rid of it.
Irrelevant on further examination of the rest of the thread.
Well you could call that elitism, or you could call it pragmatism. If you are unable to grasp the sense in which I am using the word 'mature' from the context of its utterrance then it is unlikely that your comprehension would be of value to me in any case.Which sounds an awful lot like elitism. Your reason for not "abandoning" a word, or allowing another word in place of that word, is that those who do suffer from the confusion aren't worth bothering with.
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The game and the game world have things that clearly aren't appropriate for kids. There's rape, incest, executions, torture and cold blooded murder. Including that stuff doesn't automatically make the game mature, but the game handles it in a mature way. It's not fetishized, it's matter of fact and is there to explore the characters to the player.
I also think that the game treats the player as an adult in the way it presents information. To get the most out of the story you need to really pay attention and try to piece some things together for yourself. Some people are bound to just get confused, but I really appreciate it.
Depending on your gaming preferences there may be enough exclusive games in a convenient format on a machine which can be used for other purposes (Netflix, iPlayer, Blu-Ray for example), designed to nestle alongside the tv.You mean I get to choose from the limited selection a handful of publishers and manufacturers have developed a cabal to control? Wow, sign me up!
Well I didn't mention sex. I don't think the sex in TW2 adds much and animated sex is just awkward.
It's not the sex. Half the time the dialogue feels like it was written by a two year old that's just learned certain words make the adults cross, which rather detracts from everything else. The murder, torture et al could have been used to good effect, but instead it's thrown around so often it simply loses any impact whatsoever. It's why the whole grey morality thing is laughable, the Witcher gives you people who sometimes kill people, and people who always kill people. It's about as sophisticated in that regard as the average pantomime.
Calling people console kiddies and having an outlook which propagates those sorts of statements is just...shit. There are far lesser evils in the world of gaming than consoles and yet anyone who plays one seems to get the stick for it, really arguing that console players are monkeys or whatever is just poisonous. 130 odd quid for a console that can play pretty much any game with decent visuals isn't such a bad thing, if you want more then you pay more and that's fine, there doesn't have to be a constant war of words attacking someone's hobby which they enjoy
Also I'm not 100% sure about the 'cheaper' argument. Again the PC comes with its own performance overheads thanks to the underlying OS and other background services, which is why consoles can end up lasting for friggin' ages (direct to metal programming). Getting a decent PC which would also act as a quiet HTPC would require significant compromises or expense, such that you'd either end up with something that plays games extremely well and sounds noisy, or doesn't play games to high console standards and doesn't sound like a jet engine.
What the f... is the point of this stupid discussion about view on gaming? All this sounds like "potatoes are better than tomatoes" kind of crap discussed here...
Hear from the spirit-world this mystery:
Creation is summed up, O man, in thee;
Angel and demon, man and beast art thou,
Yea, thou art all thou dost appear to be!
Besides games like RDR, the Souls games, MGS, ICO/SotC, Uncharted, God of War etc. are fucking amazing games that should not be missed. And it is sad to see that your love for games is not as strong as your fanboy prejudices.