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    Worthwhile JRPGs and other eastern games

    I've just recently began to let go of my angst towards all things manga/anime. Now I'm a bit curious. Can you suggest any modern good JRPGs or other games? I played FF7 back in the days but that's about it.
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    What, you mean on PC or in general?
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    Heh, PC. Took that one for granted since it's pc gaming discussion forum ^^
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    But there are so few for PC! The Last Remnant is about the only one I can think of off the top of my head.

    However, there are some good PS1 and PS2 emulators out there now.

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    yeah, the pickings are slim on pc for good jrps. your best bet would be to get the various emulators and have at.

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    As you probably know, the Japanese do not release much stuff on PC. If you want plot-heavy, then visual novels are probably where it's at. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_novel

    "JRPGs" are really just visual novels which think it's a good idea to waste your time in tedious grinding before you are allowed to see the plot.

    The Dark Souls port is the only Japanese PC game announcement of late which has sounded good to me. Tentatively it sounds like a lazy port, but the end result may still be better than the console version. You are going to need a gamepad in any case.

    IMO, the very best stuff that comes out of Japan is console games (Bayonetta, Vanquish, ...) and arcade games (Virtua Fighter, Mushihimesama, Deathsmiles, ...). The former are out on X360, and the latter have gotten a steady stream of X360 ports. X360s are dirt cheap, why not pick one up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by victory View Post
    X360s are dirt cheap, why not pick one up?
    I've been tempted but I don't even have a TV (I like playing, not watching). Guess you could use a display though? Boxes aren't that expensive, but then again it's still money that could go to upgrading my already great command center. Could always use more harddrives, a third display, more games and so on. Just feels pointless to invest in an inferior piece of equipment.

    EDIT: Last Remnant looked good enough. Might pick it when I have the time. On a quick glance, it seemed that it was reviewed badly just because it's a JRPG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnx View Post
    EDIT: Last Remnant looked good enough. Might pick it when I have the time. On a quick glance, it seemed that it was reviewed badly just because it's a JRPG.
    If you think there's such a bias in PC reviews, then read XBox reviews of it and ignore the complaints about technical issues (such as texture pop-in, etc) which were fixed in the PC version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnx View Post
    I've been tempted but I don't even have a TV (I like playing, not watching). Guess you could use a display though? Boxes aren't that expensive, but then again it's still money that could go to upgrading my already great command center. Could always use more harddrives, a third display, more games and so on. Just feels pointless to invest in an inferior piece of equipment.
    I never had a TV either, and I have now owned 3 consoles. Before I bought my first one, I had gamed only on PCs for 15+ years. The consoles have been completely worth it. Used to run them on computer monitors, now a video projector (shared with the PC).

    It'd be great if the games ran on my existing hardware, but they don't. Either you want to play the games or not; that "better" hardware exists is irrelevant if it won't run those games you want to play.

    EDIT: Last Remnant looked good enough. Might pick it when I have the time. On a quick glance, it seemed that it was reviewed badly just because it's a JRPG.
    As far as I'm concerned, JRPGs are bad by definition. If the bad design elements were pulled out, people would call them plot-heavy tactics or action games, not JRPGs.
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    I played Last Remnant and the 360 and was not impressed. Although I have heard the PC version is an improvement. JRPGs on PC are thin on the ground but I know FF7 and FF8 both got PC ports. The best place for JRPGs recently has been on the DS. The World Ends With You, SMT: Strange Journey, SMT: Devil survivor, Couple of FF ports and of course Pokemon. I don't know if you want to buy a handheld though.

    You might want to think about finding someway of playing old SNES games and playing some of the classics on that. FF4/5/6, Terranigma, Chrono Trigger, Fire Emblem etc

    Get a PS2 off ebay for about $30, buy yourself a copy of Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. Worth every penny. One of the pinnacles of the genre, if you're looking for a very combat heavy experience, as opposed to something story heavy like the FF games.
    Great choice. Then follow that up with SMT:Persona 4 and SMT:Digital Devil Saga if you want a bit more plot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhugie View Post
    I know FF7 and FF8 both got PC ports.
    Calling what they did to FF7 on the PC a 'port' is generous. It was unstable and buggy even under Win9x, a hassle to get working on XP and impossible (or nearly impossible? I haven't managed it anyway) to get working on Win7. I know it wasn't designed for XP or 7, but it would still CTD on its target platforms. Oh, and the final battle? The music didn't even have a choir! Final Fantasy VII without a choir backing the Sephiroth battle is like... something without a really important component! Needless to say, I play a pirated, emulated PS1 version of the game even though I legitimately own a copy of the PC version.

    On the the other hand, FF8 was actually a rather good port, with the caveat that hardware acceleration only works on very old graphics cards, because video cards haven't supported 8-bit palettised textures for years (which is hardly the fault of the game). I haven't tried it on Windows 7 yet, but it worked fine with software rendering on XP (albeit with some loss of framerate when summoning, at least on my old PC). Plus, the PC was the only place you could play the companion PocketStation chocobo game (or at least a port of it, which was included with FF8) outside Japan.

    It's kind of a shame. PS1 gamers tend to agree that FF7 was the better game (and, having first played them both on PS1, I'd probably agree), but they never had to experience the sheer difference in technical quality PC gamers did, to the point where, if they had only ever been released on PC, I'd say FF8 was easily the better game.

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    Get a PS2 off ebay for about $30, buy yourself a copy of Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. Worth every penny. One of the pinnacles of the genre, if you're looking for a very combat heavy experience, as opposed to something story heavy like the FF games.

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    Actually I own a DS lite. Not sure where it is though. Or whether it still works or not. Might see if I'd get any of those for cheap from somewhere. I was disappointed at DS game pricing. Think I only played that farm game which's name I can't remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnx View Post
    Actually I own a DS lite. Not sure where it is though. Or whether it still works or not. Might see if I'd get any of those for cheap from somewhere. I was disappointed at DS game pricing. Think I only played that farm game which's name I can't remember.
    If you manage to find it, get SMT: Strange Journey.

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    Seconded, hence the avatar <---. It's a particularly delicious concoction of dungeon crawling and a cooler version of pokemon. The monster design can also be quite...creative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnx View Post
    Actually I own a DS lite. Not sure where it is though. Or whether it still works or not. Might see if I'd get any of those for cheap from somewhere. I was disappointed at DS game pricing. Think I only played that farm game which's name I can't remember.
    You mean Harvest Moon. Or was it Rune Factory?

    Anyway, you should get one when the DS is easily the best place to find any worthwhile JRPGs nowadays. Chrono Trigger, for one. Trust me, playing Chrono Trigger on that little sucker would get you hooked for hours, if not days. Or you could just emulate for GBA games and get Mother 3 with an english patch.

    For the PC? Well, the only ones that I could think of is Reccetear, Dark Souls (soon) and The Last Remnant. There are quite a few JRPG-likes in the PC, too like Anachronox, Planescape: Torment, Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden and Wizardry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voon View Post
    There are quite a few JRPG-likes in the PC, too like [...] Wizardry
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    I support the recommendation for Breath of Fire 4, though it has its fair share of problems. Like all BoF games it suffers from some unnecessarily tedious sections and quite a bit of filler content. However, the combat system does some interesting things, the storyline is quite good and the main cast is really likeable. It also has one of the best JRPG villains.

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    Sega has released quite a few games on Steam these days.

    Shining Force 1&2 (My favorite all time Turn-Based Strat rpg)
    Phantasy Star
    Others (have to look at their full list, plus did not own many genesis rpgs)

    Will compile a more comprehensive list of what I own/played after work. Which most would recommend.

    Since the DS was mentioned...off the top of my head:
    Etrian Odyssey series (first person dungeon crawl)
    The World Ends With You
    Devil Survivor
    Strange Journey
    Infinite Space
    Knights in the Nightmare (bullet hell type gameplay in battles)
    uhh will have to check once home.


    PSP also has a ton of JRPGs, some being re-releases from PS2 or DS with additional content.

    Again, will make a nice big list after work. Lots to add.

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    I can certainly recommend Grandia 2 as a great PC JRPG.

    You could also argue Planescape and Anachranox are basically American JRPGs.

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