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    I initially didn't mind it much myself but then decided to search more information.

    Now we're having multiple reedit threads with over 1600 comments deleted. If this really was a minor thing then why is it getting such drastic damage control measures which spillover in full censorship?

    And reedit is not the only place this is happening.

    If this Zoe Quinn is such an unimportant person that did unimportant things why is the defense of these seemingly unimportant things so fierce? Why is discussion of any kind (nevermind criticism) suppressed?

    It's easy and quick to dismiss it, as I've done it many times. But this time there much more proof of corruption and it won't be so easily removed from the public eye.

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    I just finished a marathon of "House of Cards", so this thing amaze me, I may be intoxicated of conspiracy narratives atm.



    Theres a space betwen honesty and corruption that is gray. People imagine that a line, so you are either corrupt or honest, but is really a huge valley. People can have lives in that valley, have childrens, and these childrens can grown enough to have his own childrens.

    The things I would do to friends, include re-posting their twits, or facebooks posts... to give them a tiny bit of publicity. And indies need that.


    I hope this don't affect the main reason why we need something like RPS, and is talking about the good games. Is more needed than ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedaykin View Post
    I initially didn't mind it much myself but then decided to search more information.

    Now we're having multiple reedit threads with over 1600 comments deleted. If this really was a minor thing then why is it getting such drastic damage control measures which spillover in full censorship?
    Reddit does not actually delete anything as a general rule. Unless the comment threads break the law (child pornography, personal information, death threats, that sorta thing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    Reddit does not actually delete anything as a general rule. Unless the comment threads break the law (child pornography, personal information, death threats, that sorta thing).
    Check out this thread. A lot of deletions.

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    The top comment in that thread is basically everything anyone would ever need to know about this. ;D

    Edit: Oh god, I just scrolled down, it's like some kind of weird hate-rave party going on, with disoriented people stumbling through a living room which has been set on fire muttering things like "Why?" and "What has happened here?". I'm in tears!
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    Who on earth are half of these people and why should I care in the slightest what they do with their personal lives, or what others accuse them of doing? Well, the guy who wrote a 9,000 word ramble probably ought to find something else to do or get therapy if he has trouble thinking of anything else, but other than that, why all the fuss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakkura View Post
    Check out this thread. A lot of deletions.
    Hmm.
    A quick view trough the TOS shows that spam and ctrl+V comments are also not allowed. Considering that those are appearing quite often I am assuming that is what happening (Because never explain to malice etc...)
    I mean, what would the reddit admins gain from censoring such a discussion, esp. on a forum dedicated to free speech and all the problems that come with it?

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    Someone over at {another forum} had linked the video but it was quickly removed. I think mostly just because mentioning ZQ on that (and most of the internet) results in horrible things.

    I read through the guys blog (I've not much else to do right now) and I'm not sure what he's trying to achieve other than cause drama. I honestly thought people stopped this kind of school yard stuff when they stopped being in the school yard. Nobody in this entire scenario comes off well, regardless of if it's true or not. It's just like the internet version of Jeremy Kyle, only nobody is able to be Jeremy Kyle yelling at the people on his stage.
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    "Halo is designed to make the player think "I look like that, I am macho sitting in my undies with my xbox""

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurgret View Post
    Who on earth are half of these people and why should I care in the slightest what they do with their personal lives, or what others accuse them of doing? Well, the guy who wrote a 9,000 word ramble probably ought to find something else to do or get therapy if he has trouble thinking of anything else, but other than that, why all the fuss?
    Because chicks, brah

    also the true, ugly face of corruption in videogames journalism

    it's all there

    (Serious answer: honestly, it really is just a bunch of angry internet commenters who found out a minor indie developer many people have never even heard of had made some (possibly) very bad judgement calls in her personal life, and thought they'd try and spin the whole thing as a shattering expose proving women can't be trusted/all games journalists are on the take - all because the indie developer in question had previously said a bunch of stuff about these commenters which they didn't like)

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    is it any surprise that totalbiscuit is once again involved?
    - Tom De Roeck.

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    "Quantacat's name is still recognised even if he watches on with detached eyes like Peter Molyneux over a cube in 3D space, staring at it with tears in his eyes, softly whispering... Someday they'll get it."

    "It's frankly embarrassing. The mods on here are woeful."

    "I wrinkled my nose at QC being a mod."

    "At least he has some personality."

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantaCat View Post
    is it any surprise that totalbiscuit is once again involved?
    No. He makes a career out of commenting on things. He didn't really get involved though. He said he doesn't agree with her use of censorship of someones youtube video but also makes a point that it's possible she didn't do it and someone did it pretending to be her because "lol youtube".
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantaCat View Post
    is it any surprise that totalbiscuit is once again involved?
    Sorry to drag this out even more, but why should it not be a surprise? Does he have some kind of link to this crap? I just assumed one of these guys was pretending it was a great achievement to have TB talk about the whole sorry mess because he's got so many followers. I don't like his dismissal of "SJW bullshit" or saying Depression Quest is not-a-game, but I assumed that was just the way he was, and I didn't think it was really connected to the issue...?

    EDIT: Jesus_Phish has probably put it more succinctly.

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    no, more to do with my total dislike of the man, and I like hearing things that make my belief in my absolute dislike to be reinforced.


    So maybe I was a bit quick to judge.
    - Tom De Roeck.

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    "Quantacat's name is still recognised even if he watches on with detached eyes like Peter Molyneux over a cube in 3D space, staring at it with tears in his eyes, softly whispering... Someday they'll get it."

    "It's frankly embarrassing. The mods on here are woeful."

    "I wrinkled my nose at QC being a mod."

    "At least he has some personality."

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantaCat View Post
    no, more to do with my total dislike of the man, and I like hearing things that make my belief in my absolute dislike to be reinforced.


    So maybe I was a bit quick to judge.
    I think what's more important to point out is he commented away from Reddit. It was as much a surprise to him to see the headline in Reddit as to anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantaCat View Post
    is it any surprise that totalbiscuit is once again involved?
    he basically say "we don't know nothing about this".

    thats a balanced post.


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    (at the time I post, this is a fucking billion of deleted messages)



    I think reddit moderators should stop tryiing to control the message and not make reddit their personal blog

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    Has anyone stopped to think that maybe the reason Nathan Grayson left RPS is because of this scandal?

    Yes Nathan is gone.
    Article: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014.../love-you-all/

    In the article he says
    I donít think the career will die entirely, but I also recognize that YouTubers and Twitch streamers are having a big impact on the field.
    Why would he leave RPS, potentially damning his career, unless some of this is true. Maybe he was asked to leave.

    It seems to me RPS has dealt with the situation. Journalistic integrity was compromised and now the healing can begin.

    Obviously what I have written is just a theory and there is some question to the validity of the whole Zoe Quinn scandal as there always is and should be with any scandal. Don't take what I say here at face value as it is entirely conjecture, I myself don't fully believe this theory or I don't want to anyway. I understand people want closure and I think we can safely say that as RPS readers we are ready to move on.

    Let me finish by saying Nathan Grayson has provided a lot of excellent journalism here and I'm sad to see his career tarnished by these events. I wish him luck in his endeavors.

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    I read many articles on RPS. If Nathan was compromising his journalistic integrity, which seems unlikely to begin with, then my goodness, he was doing a terrible job of it, because I had never even heard of this developer nor anything she made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tei View Post
    I think reddit moderators should stop tryiing to control the message and not make reddit their personal blog
    Here's the reason for the mass deletions: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comme...g_and_general/

    Read it, make up your mind, move on (?).

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    It should be mentioned that currently, people are attempting to post the "Quinnsaga" videos in the RPS comment threads.

    Heck. Spamming, even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiz View Post
    Here's the reason for the mass deletions: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comme...g_and_general/

    Read it, make up your mind, move on (?).
    Read it, made up my mind I'm never having anything to do with Reddit, moving on.

    (I feel for the moderator who wrote that, but... yeah, I'm pretty comfortable largely dismissing an online community of several million based on the actions of a few. I read the odd dumb internet comedy post there, but that's about it, and I wouldn't register an account there if you paid me.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    It should be mentioned that currently, people are attempting to post the "Quinnsaga" videos in the RPS comment threads.

    Heck. Spamming, even.
    Not remotely surprised.

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