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18-09-2013, 08:04 PM #361
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I'm all for bans, more bans, more regular bans, temp bans while something gets sorted out. I'm also all for how the comments are managed on the front-page, with straight up deletion of offensive posts.
But I don't see the point of a thread closure. Pretty much ever. If a thread has run its course, then banning the people arguing nonsense will cause it to die naturally anyway. You ban the un-excellent posters, and the thread can return to being excellent.
Unless discussions on controversial topics can just never be excellent by definition, in which case just say we're not allowed to have them.
People here have actual legitimate concerns around this community, and frankly are far more invested in it than you are. And to be honest a lot of those concerns stem from people here no longer wanting to put up with casual misogyny, homophobia and racism here. To call it out when they see it and demand something be done about. And the reason they might be doing that, is probably in large part because you're rightly making such a big deal about tackling these topics in gaming head on, on the main blog. You're actually changing minds, influencing opinions, getting people to give a crap about the state of gaming and the online communities around it.
But when people react to these things in the way you want them to, on your own forums, they're met with silence and locked threads. To the have the first public statement an admin has actually made on those issues to be to dismiss them as 'bickering' and to shut down the conversation is a bit of a kick in the teeth.
Were people making this much of a fuss about these topics on the Bioware forums or the WoW forums, and demanding something be done, you'd likely be writing about it being a positive movement in gaming. You'd be talking about the 'silence' from the companies involved if they didn't engage with it. And rightly so.
And I'm not saying there's an easy solution, I'm not saying it's a quick fix and you should just sort it out. I'm not even saying you should hire a community manager because that money could be spent on hiring a new full-time Cara...err... writer. But maybe take half an hour to let people know that you're trying and to engage just a little? Rather than just float over the whole thing with an air of superiority and dismiss us all as just whining.
18-09-2013, 08:43 PM #362
19-09-2013, 09:35 AM #363
Not that Im saying some werent saying it and we shouldnt be exact, but you end up edging against the people that arent really making any statements against anything, just trying to be logical about certain things.
Again, down with the -ist arseholes, but some threads just breed arseholery and dont really add much in the form of discussion. Its mostly one slew of users agreeing to something anyhow, and another slew calling people fags, in a nice way.
However, that being said, you say there is a discussion to be had, please, start a discussion and I promise you, I will watch over it and prune the shit out of it, but you have to let me know which thread.
Also, Nahru, I dont like you. Id very much prefer to be very unexcellent to you, but I wont.
19-09-2013, 09:42 AM #364
19-09-2013, 10:11 AM #365
I had to state something, thats why. Id rather I said that than just call you something.
19-09-2013, 10:35 AM #366
But fine, I may have wasted my effort to write this post anyway, think and speak whatever suits You (You are mindful of rules at least).
19-09-2013, 10:46 AM #367
Im not jesus though, so dont capital letter me :D
No but I would like to explain further; a lot of people or things enrage me sometimes and I have to act on that. id rather much act after taking a step back than not act at all.
19-09-2013, 11:06 AM #368
I think we have derailed this thread enough?
I do like the new RPS blog layout, much more than the (in my opinion) dull previous iteration. If only you (RPS staff) could somehow "fix" that issue when logging in to reply, and it directs one to the front page, instead to where one intends (the article in question, with comment box ready to be typed in).
Last edited by Nahru; 19-09-2013 at 11:19 AM. Reason: because of grammar nightmare
19-09-2013, 01:01 PM #369
19-09-2013, 01:07 PM #370
19-09-2013, 01:31 PM #371
And in order to prove that: make a thread that isnt about how shitty RPS is handling these posts, but with actual content. Let me, or even better Anthile, know, and I promise it wont get locked.
Unless it proves that there is no real discussion hence no real reason to get excited really when it gets locked after mostly back and forth between the ists.
19-09-2013, 01:46 PM #372
19-09-2013, 01:53 PM #373
You often make good points Nalano -- I'm sure you're capable of making them without resorting to "fuck you," which I think we can all agree is not a particularly excellent piece of phrasing.
19-09-2013, 02:10 PM #374
If you thought I was insinuating anything, you might be paranoid.
2) You should only discuss matters RPS on the RPS subforum. but the matters that were discussed are just that: discussed. nothing more to say, much more to do. so get on with it.
3) yes. moho, hamster and someone else was banned. some on the way to getting there, but its gotten rather quiet since we announced banning for being slightly -ist. Theres one Im suspicious of, but I cant prove anything yet.
4) let me make a point: I know the picking out "offenders" and keeping threads clean is sortof the mods job, but I dont think those threads can stay clean on either side, so why bother at all with one of these and not just lock it? like I said, prove it, and I will happily change my mind about it, while Ill regardless try to keep the mods getting rid of idiot-ists.
19-09-2013, 02:29 PM #375
19-09-2013, 04:07 PM #376
Nalano: You'd rather I banned more widely than closed threads? I can do that, but it seems way harsher.
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