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    Worth remembering, for better or worse, that you can get an app for Steam on mobile devices, so if you're away from home but have internet access, you should be able to still invest. Someone may wanna verify that though, as I'm not 100% on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The JG Man View Post
    Worth remembering, for better or worse, that you can get an app for Steam on mobile devices, so if you're away from home but have internet access, you should be able to still invest. Someone may wanna verify that though, as I'm not 100% on it.
    True, but if there's any of the summer camp-esque meta game stuff going on this year, participating in them is a bit trickier without a gaming PC at hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jams O'Donnell View Post
    2011: 30th June (Thursday)
    2010: 24th June (Thursday)

    If it's going to happen, it's going to happen soon. Maybe VERY soon, but my money's on next Thursday.
    Obviously July the 4th is a significant factor in the scheduling. This makes the 28th more likely than today, but gamers gate has an ultra sale on total ways games, publishers are often quite bad when it comes to openly matching their sales, especially Sega. Could be today tbh, but yeah I'd be surprised if it hadn't happened by next thursday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    This. The big dogs create the market - in talent, production and consumer cultivation - for niche games to exist.
    The big dogs create a market. The niche stuff was here long before the "big dogs" and would most definitely survive them. There are certainly some indies that have benefited from the likes of Valve and EA dominating the platform, but the influence of these large publishers (and their "customer cultivation") has done little to nothing to aid the more niche areas of the indie gaming space. In fact, as any developer that can't or won't get on Steam would likely tell you, the influence of those larger publishers primarily serves to suck all the air out of the room for the non-favored, and depress prices.

    More people may mean more games, but most of them are fluff. There's obviously no way to know without actually having the industry collapse, but I continue to suspect I'd be just fine without Valve, EA, and company around. Yes, I'd lose some games and series I cared about (Blue Byte, as Althea rightly points out, would be one of many casualties), I'm not claiming otherwise, but I'd have plenty of interesting stuff to play anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flint View Post
    True, but if there's any of the summer camp-esque meta game stuff going on this year, participating in them is a bit trickier without a gaming PC at hand.
    Right...yeah, that makes a lot more sense. There's also the internet at hand. I'm going to go back to my recesses now :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliocentric View Post
    Obviously July the 4th is a significant factor in the scheduling. This makes the 28th more likely than today, but gamers gate has an ultra sale on total ways games, publishers are often quite bad when it comes to openly matching their sales, especially Sega. Could be today tbh, but yeah I'd be surprised if it hadn't happened by next thursday.
    It's been the last Thursday of June for the past two years, I'd expect it's the same this year, i.e., the 28th.

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    Steam just put up their weekend deal (75% off Deus Ex), so I doubt we'll see the Summer Sale start this week. One more week ladies and gentlelads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinraith View Post
    More people may mean more games, but most of them are fluff. There's obviously no way to know without actually having the industry collapse, but I continue to suspect I'd be just fine without Valve, EA, and company around. Yes, I'd lose some games and series I cared about (Blue Byte, as Althea rightly points out, would be one of many casualties), I'm not claiming otherwise, but I'd have plenty of interesting stuff to play anyway.
    Three things.

    1) Sturgeon's Law applies to indies, too.
    2) The industry did collapse. More than once. And suddenly you didn't see very many games coming out.
    3) Yeah, you'll get an industry where a game will sell tens of thousands instead of millions, and the combined interest in gaming will shrink accordingly. Without the large number of minds invested in gaming, you'll see fewer, less interesting, less complex games across the board. Althea was right: A lot of new developers - indie developers, no less! - started as modders of AAA games, which means they were defined by a AAA market. They were game fans first, game developers second.
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    It's also worth noting, in my opinion, that a number of indie devs are ex-professionals or contain ex-pros in their roster - Gaslamp Games, for example, has some ex-professional devs.


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    Very long post deleted, suffice it to say we're not talking about the same games. Ultimately this is a pointless argument anyway. I can do no harm to the industry, so there's little enough point trying to convince me to try and save it. I'm content that it'll collapse in due course, and maintain hope that the interesting stuff at the fringes will survive. That's where I'll be spending my money, anyway.

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    Hey, Heliocentric, Fable 3 isn't bad, it's just... not Fable 1. It's a bit like going into Swat 4 expecting Police Quest, except probably not that excellent. It's a fun game that I greatly enjoyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinraith View Post
    Very long post deleted, suffice it to say we're not talking about the same games. Ultimately this is a pointless argument anyway. I can do no harm to the industry, so there's little enough point trying to convince me to try and save it. I'm content that it'll collapse in due course, and maintain hope that the interesting stuff at the fringes will survive. That's where I'll be spending my money, anyway.
    That's why I started with "people like you," i.e. plural, i.e. if it were a prevailing point of view.

    And your post kinda reads like "and that's why I hope society collapses but my neighborhood remains untouched."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSeuss View Post
    Hey, Heliocentric, Fable 3 isn't bad, it's just... not Fable 1. It's a bit like going into Swat 4 expecting Police Quest, except probably not that excellent. It's a fun game that I greatly enjoyed.
    It's a piss-poor port with many great ideas that are only half-baked, leading to an unbalanced and largely un-fun game with a few redeeming moments but ultimately too many back-and-forth quests.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    It's a piss-poor port with many great ideas that are only half-baked, leading to an unbalanced and largely un-fun game with a few redeeming moments but ultimately too many back-and-forth quests.
    Interesting. You are the first person I've ever heard remark that it was a poor port. For my part, I find it rather good.

    Yes, not all the ideas are great. Yes, you run around the world a lot.

    ...aaaaand somehow I enjoy it. I enjoy having to make myself look as stupid as possible to open a demon door. I love the hand-holding mechanic. I love a great deal of the quests, the general attitude of the world, and the fact that it's an RPG that tries to focus more on role-playing than unnecessary abstractions like being turn-based or isometric or relying on stats or whatever.

    I like being in Albion, for whatever reason. I like ruling it dressed as a giant chicken even more.

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    It was a poor port.

    It was bloated, had GfWL, had numerous graphics issues, had very limited graphics options for an AAA port... Yeah...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    That's why I started with "people like you," i.e. plural, i.e. if it were a prevailing point of view.

    And your post kinda reads like "and that's why I hope society collapses but my neighborhood remains untouched."
    You seem to think I'm hoping for a collapse. Regarding something as inevitable and hoping for it are two very different things. There are a lot of things I'd like to see changed about the industry, but I don't want to see it fall apart precisely because the collateral damage to the stuff I care about is completely unpredictable.

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    Just figured out something I don't have and would like to get from a major sale.

    Risen 1 & 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnx View Post
    Just figured out something I don't have and would like to get from a major sale.

    Risen 1 & 2.
    You can play Risen 1 for free on the Void on GamersGate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaroYamada View Post
    You can play Risen 1 for free on the Void on GamersGate.
    If Void is available in your region, which for most people it currently isn't.


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    Obviously these are all "if they have considerable discounts":

    Demigod
    Skyrim
    Dead Island?
    Deus Ex: Human Resources (it'll come up again in the sale, right? It's been an expensive month)
    Sid Meier's Pirates
    M&B: Warband
    Metro 2033
    Civ 5
    Left 4 Dead 2 (if it goes very cheap. Which it will.)
    Bulletstorm
    Singularity
    Saints Row 3
    Splinter Cell: Conviction


    And I won't play a f*cking one of them.

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