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    Quote Originally Posted by gwathdring View Post
    it's really important to have something to do other than shout "That one! Get him! Oh, look out he's got the chair!"


    ...sorry. Had to. ^_^
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    Yeah, I think I know what you mean Blackcompany. I thought exploration in Skyrim lead to some neat encounters. Like when I found a book in a Forsworn camp which detailed the sorrowful history and culture of the people I'd been carelessly slaughtering up to that point. It really made me see them in a new light, and it was something that was totally unexpected from a Bethesda game (or games in general, really.) It was a pity that such moments were so few and far between all the brainless mouse clicking.
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    MMO's, at least, have been aware for some time that a segment of their player population view exploration as something they enjoy doing in their games. It's really a shame few really cater to that player segment.

    There is the upcoming Wildstar which promises to map the Bartle subtypes to appropriate professions. I'm not convinced they can pull it off, (explorers get to summon steps? WTF?) but at least they're trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winged Nazgul View Post
    Bartle subtypes
    I'd not heard of this so I looked it up. But I don't really buy it.

    The explorer type "prefer[s] discovering areas, creating maps and learning about hidden places".

    Ok.

    But that's not what I personally am doing when I'm exploring. I like finding stuff - a cool vista, an unexpected encounter, hidden treasure, maybe a shortcut home - not just exploring for the sake of more exploration.

    Now I'm not saying that's why even other folks in this thread explore as well. But it means I don't know how I fit into Bartle's categorisation. I'm not an explorer, I don't fit that box. But then what category do my exploring tendencies go in? Achiever? But I'm not worried about numbers or completion. Socialiser? Clearly not. Killer? No, that doesn't fit either.


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    Sorry, I thought this would be common knowledge here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartle_Test

    For reference, here is the result of mine:

    http://sig.gamerdna.com/quizzes/BARTL/nazgul64.png

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    I took the test twice and got different results every time. I am an explorer-killer anyway, nothing I didn't knew.

    -100% reward driven both times, though.

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    Socializer-Killer. I'm a people person!

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    I always figured you as a low achiever, old chap.

    I'm apparently an Explorer, but it's hard for me to take the test because all the questions are about "in an MMO, do you..." and "when talking to other people, do you..." when of course I hate MMOs and indeed talking to people.
    Irrelevant on further examination of the rest of the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fumarole View Post
    Stalker anyone?
    Quite.

    It dispenses with levllling in favour of "you are what you carry and use" which has always been what I very much prefer.

    Levelling is as heliocentric said; a massive player tease; an artificial barrier to playing. Having content limited by skill at playing (which might including finding stuff; not just waiting for it to randomly pop out of an enemy) is a much better, but much harder, way of designing games.

    This is why I also bounced right of off binding of isaac. It's whole premise is "play until you randomly get that neat thing which helps you progress". It's basically a one armed bandit machine in disguise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NathanH View Post
    I always figured you as a low achiever, old chap.
    Well, I do hate raiding with a passion, and largely only did it while drunk, insisting on misdirecting everybody but the main tank while filibustering ventrilo and tabbing out to post on forums, but I did end up second best-equipped hunter on the server when I quit WoW after being top DPS in three consecutive raiding guilds.

    Which kinda shows where the challenge level was at for that game.
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