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    Its to ascertain wether you are alive or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashbox View Post
    I'm fairly sure the inclusion of a start screen is required for certification on Xbox, and probably Playstation, too.
    That doesn't really explain WHY they require that in 2012.
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    Something about verifying controller input and zeroing analog sticks?

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    Sometimes it's an aesthetic choice. As you all probably remember, the original Deus Ex required you to press escape to bring up the menu. Though I can't very well equate that to the consoles' Press Start screen because you could access the menu even as the developer/publisher logos were flying past. They don't make them like that anymore, do they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flint View Post
    I kinda like them. Pointless, sure, but I find them to be a nice little welcome to the game. Some games do it really well too, like Wind Waker where it genuinely feels like a part of the experience (the music, the background, etc). Plus it's just a button press in the end. I'd much rather rain hellfire on all the unskippable developer logo and, even worse, NVidia/other tech peripheral etc logos.
    Ah, but the great thing about PC games is, in most cases you can dive right into the game's files and delete those cinematics.

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    I don't mind them when I start the game. I don't understand the outrage. They're annoying when you exit to the main menu though.

    When I load a level I also like to press start to start.

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    lol outrage? Kind of taking things a bit out of context there aren't we?
    I hate side quests. If you can't be bothered to write a decent enough story to fill a game, then just hire a writer that can. Enough of these filler quests that really turn an interesting game into a grind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliocentric View Post
    Alt+F4 works on this one.
    Alt + F4 sometimes corrupts save-files, I speak from experience here. ;p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopig View Post
    lol outrage? Kind of taking things a bit out of context there aren't we?
    Er, no, this is an exaggeration. Taking things out of context is a different thing entirely.

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    Ok, so we can add pedantry to the mix too :p
    I hate side quests. If you can't be bothered to write a decent enough story to fill a game, then just hire a writer that can. Enough of these filler quests that really turn an interesting game into a grind.

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    Speaking of unnecessary prompts, I always love having to select which storage device to load my savegame from even if only the connected harddisk is present and holding savegames (together with the config file). There's no reason why it can't keep a default location and offer the option to load from somewhere else as an option... I think Bayonetta did this, and also several of my Xbox games.

    Or those where you have to confirm if you really want to load a savegame, then confirm after the read sequence, then wait for the scene/level to actually load (Final Fantasy XIII, I'm looking at you). Going from game launch to gameplay in XIII-2 goes like: Wait for game to boot, hit start to start (disguised as an intro video), select load/continue option, confirm that you want to load, watch it load briefly, confirm that the game has loaded, wait while the game actually loads now (comes with a narrated "previously in FF13-2" sequence so that's nice) for a while, enter in the "time line" screen, select area to go to, wait some more till the actual level is loaded. Fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliocentric View Post
    Alt+F4?

    The games which have the best start screens have content like the Lionhead logo where moving your mouse effected the box that held the cubes that would make the logo
    You jam doughnut, I was going to show off my knowledge and mention that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKicksalot View Post
    When I load a level I also like to press start to start.
    Me too. Then if the loading takes a while I can go grab some tea and not miss anything.
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    "Saving game - please do not turn off your PC"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravelle View Post
    Alt + F4 sometimes corrupts save-files, I speak from experience here. ;p
    If that's the case whoever coded that should be paraded through the streets and made fun of mercilessly for screwing up one of the most basic functions of a program.

    No, alt+f4 is not a fallback. It is a default shortcut to very kindly tell a program to quit. What should happen next is that the program should clean up and exit gracefully, maybe prompting the user to safe his data.

    There are more rude ways to kill a program, like telling the kernel to give it the boot instead of asking nicely. Programs shouldn't shit their pants if that happens, but it can happen. It's usually a step that is taken when some coder doesn't do his homework and can't even handle shutting his own program down..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batolemaeus View Post
    If that's the case whoever coded that should be paraded through the streets and made fun of mercilessly for screwing up one of the most basic functions of a program.

    No, alt+f4 is not a fallback. It is a default shortcut to very kindly tell a program to quit. What should happen next is that the program should clean up and exit gracefully, maybe prompting the user to safe his data.

    There are more rude ways to kill a program, like telling the kernel to give it the boot instead of asking nicely. Programs shouldn't shit their pants if that happens, but it can happen. It's usually a step that is taken when some coder doesn't do his homework and can't even handle shutting his own program down..
    Most of the game where it's a problem don't exit gracefully at the best of times. Fallout 3, for example, routinely crashes upon exiting; I don't mind overmuch, as I prefer that to crashing while I'm actually playing (happens, but less often), but if pressing the dedicated "exit game" button doesn't work properly I'm hardly surprised an industry standard quit command doesn't either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbriandamage View Post
    "Saving game - please do not turn off your PC"
    That always cracks me up.

    Even better are the games which make you click through a prompt that mentions "this icon = autosave, please don't turn off your computer at that time" after launching.
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    Seems a good idea to me. Some people are idiots, my Dad included, and they will turn it off at any time, they dont care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravelle View Post
    Alt + F4 sometimes corrupts save-files, I speak from experience here. ;p
    Oh yeah, i always tapped escape to let the "I am saving now" symbol shut up.
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