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Thread: RPS Blood Bowl League - The many, many Divisions of Death!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowKey View Post
    This is now required thing i hope you know
    I'm glad you enjoy them :)

    I'm definitely planning on going on with them for another season, not least because only my first match report was actually nice and long and explained everything.

    If I have time at work today or tomorrow, I may even try and write up a longer report for the final match. Obviously my time at home is entirely booked up because Diablo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potatoedoughnut View Post
    I typically look at the speed of the fastest scoring/blitzing threat (ie goblins don't count, they're not real people):

    6 = slow (orcs, chaos, dwarves, khemri)
    7 = average (delfs, undead, norse)
    8 = fast (humans, lizards, elves)
    9 = freaks (wood elves, skaven)

    Obviously orcs are a bit more mobile than dwarves due to more agi3, but they can't sprint down the pitch any faster. Similarly delfs are more mobile than undead because agi4 & agi skill access on more players, but they're still limited by MV7 at the top end.
    Personally I don't agree with your method here, at the very least because several teams don't feel as fast or as slow as you categorised them and so the categories don't feel adequate.

    Blitz range alone I think is too simplistic. AG is definitely a major factor, but also the range of MA values over a typical 11-strong line-up can affect the feel of a team. A team with MA 7 across the board can feel faster than a MA 6 team with a couple of MA 8s on the pitch.

    Maybe an aggregate/average MA score would be a good starting point for an alternative, I don't know.
    Last edited by Screwie; 16-05-2012 at 08:34 AM.

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    Thinking of joining the league but unsure if I'll have time to dedicate to it, sadly the friends I had that did play blood Bowl have moved on and now I'm left playing randoms, which just doesn't really feel as fun as it was.

    Got my old BB:DE Chaos team with a beastly Mino, Block, Claw, +1 Strength, Multiblock (really wish I'd chosen something else here but I had just started the game and was playing in a group of friends) and Break Tackle. He's sitting pretty on 75 SP (three MVPs in a row first three games, the rest are all Casualties and I think 2 touchdowns) while the rest of the team is mostly rookies with a few veterans (the closest guy is the block, Mighty blow, Claw, Horns Chaos Warrior).

    Now for team wise, I'm thinking of something of a gimmick team if that's allowed, Undead Zombies and Skeletons only or something along similar lines.

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    Oh, it's just one game every ten days. You'll manage, Dr_Mechano.

    Keep in mind that new teams to the Divisions are pretty much required to start as actually new teams. Apart from that, everything is allowed, even if Screwie is still annoyed at me for gangfouling him in turn 16 at one point. <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano View Post
    Thinking of joining the league but unsure if I'll have time to dedicate to it, sadly the friends I had that did play blood Bowl have moved on and now I'm left playing randoms, which just doesn't really feel as fun as it was.

    Got my old BB:DE Chaos team...
    Note that this league runs on BB: Legendary Edition. Maybe (hopefully!) you just meant that this team started out in the Dark Elves edition but you've since moved forward?

    I believe you can pick up the Legendary Edition fairly cheaply in a few places, though I couldn't tell you where off the top of my head. (Also, however, note that there's a new 'Chaos Edition' coming out sometime later this year; though I think it's still very uncertain whether this league will upgrade to that or not)

    Edit: Of course, then I see you've already posted in the Chaos Edition thread, and seem far more educated and knowledgeable than me on the matter. Sorry for assuming less, but I'd hate to offer bad advice to an apparent newcomer!
    Last edited by Dentharial; 16-05-2012 at 01:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexing Vision View Post
    Keep in mind that new teams to the Divisions are pretty much required to start as actually new teams. Apart from that, everything is allowed, even if Screwie is still annoyed at me for gangfouling him in turn 16 at one point. <3
    Shouldn't be allowed! :P

    Also worth mentioning is that we have some (generous) limits on the races available for the Divisions of Death. Typically you will be able to play whichever team you like, but the more popular teams are sometimes full up. Check the spreadsheet in the OP for more info.

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    Undead are average speed?
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    Well they have 6 players at least at average speed or above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dentharial View Post
    Note that this league runs on BB: Legendary Edition. Maybe (hopefully!) you just meant that this team started out in the Dark Elves edition but you've since moved forward?

    I believe you can pick up the Legendary Edition fairly cheaply in a few places, though I couldn't tell you where off the top of my head. (Also, however, note that there's a new 'Chaos Edition' coming out sometime later this year; though I think it's still very uncertain whether this league will upgrade to that or not)

    Edit: Of course, then I see you've already posted in the Chaos Edition thread, and seem far more educated and knowledgeable than me on the matter. Sorry for assuming less, but I'd hate to offer bad advice to an apparent newcomer!
    Heh no worries, while I may be knowledgeable I'm still at the 'ok' level of Blood Bowl, what is the normal match turn time in the league, I tend to play 2 minute turns. Oh and are most of the people in the US, I'm in the UK which would limit matchups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano View Post
    Heh no worries, while I may be knowledgeable I'm still at the 'ok' level of Blood Bowl, what is the normal match turn time in the league, I tend to play 2 minute turns. Oh and are most of the people in the US, I'm in the UK which would limit matchups.
    It's 4 minutes actually, but that's usually not a problem. Most players are rather experienced.

    We have two or three US people here, but most of us Europeans can do adventurous night- and morning-matches. Or the weekend... it hasn't really affected us that much.
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    Not at all, we're mostly UK based. There are a couple of Johnny Foreigner types too, but we try not to judge them too harshly for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowKey View Post
    Well they have 6 players at least at average speed or above
    Depends on the definition of average, since Wights are MA 6 :)

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    I always thought 6 was an aveage move, 7 fast, 8 very fast and nine shutyourfacegutterbastard, my source for this is my own mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowKey View Post
    I always thought 6 was an aveage move, 7 fast, 8 very fast and nine shutyourfacegutterbastard, my source for this is my own mind
    Yeah tend to follow this for individual players.

    And undead have 4 MV7 players w/ dodge and agi access, they can be pretty quick even if the mummies can't keep up.

    In general I wouldn't argue that any of my team speed rankings feel off. Orcs top out at MV6, have several MV4 players, low agi, and no agi access; not exactly a quick team. I've made my argument for undeads above.

    Of course opinions may differ, but I think that's a pretty fair ranking.
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    It is true that my mv 8 ghoul is monumental among my players, I suppose my mostly MV3-4 team isn't slow after all.
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    Urgh - my Div C game vs MadDave lost connection in turn 16, with the score at 2-0 to me. Would it be possible to validate that result and keep the score as that and all spp earned in the game, or does it have to be admined?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boots468 View Post
    Urgh - my Div C game vs MadDave lost connection in turn 16, with the score at 2-0 to me. Would it be possible to validate that result and keep the score as that and all spp earned in the game, or does it have to be admined?
    Yeah, sorry about that. PC crashed. -_-
    Any way to retain all the SPP's? T'was a very bashy game.

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    Boots, maddave, I'll take a look at that one tonight, see what it set you to - depending on how it crashed out, it may or may not have retained your score. If it's just set a default 2-0, would you like to keep that score (with the default SPPs) or try to play again? The question is really for boots, as he's the one that might lose out with a replay.

    In other news, the season finished last night! Yey! But we still have games outstanding! Boo! If you need a day or two more to play, let me know in here. If not, I'll be defaulting folks tonight so we can get going with setting up the new season :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by potatoedoughnut View Post
    Of course opinions may differ, but I think that's a pretty fair ranking.
    Of course, no worries. You've inspired me to start looking seriously at alternative methods for measuring team speed, which is keeping me amused for a while.

    However...

    Quote Originally Posted by potatoedoughnut View Post
    I typically look at the speed of the fastest scoring/blitzing threat (ie goblins don't count, they're not real people)...
    Quote Originally Posted by potatoedoughnut View Post
    Orcs top out at MV6, have several MV4 players, low agi, and no agi access; not exactly a quick team.
    Such hatred! :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by groovychainsaw View Post
    In other news, the season finished last night! Yey! But we still have games outstanding! Boo! If you need a day or two more to play, let me know in here. If not, I'll be defaulting folks tonight so we can get going with setting up the new season :-)
    Duffin and I were going to play tomorrow night, but I don't think it'll affect the result of the division either way so if we're holding things up a draw would be OK with me. (If we're not I'd still like to play, but I don't want to get in the way of things.)

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