View Poll Results: What should the new look divisions look like?

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  • No change! I fear change!

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  • Triplets! I love triplets!

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  • GC's lovely 1-2-quad based tier system. It's clearly the best!

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    Guys, I sweated my way though two bastard mechanics papers this morning and now I come back to this :(.

    Seriously though, coaching halflings isn't a hobby, it's a vocation.

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    ..or a penance for previous sins against Nuffle.
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  3. #2903
    Quote Originally Posted by ChainsawHands View Post
    Your maths are wrong. Well, your calculations are correct, but you've done the wrong calculation. AV8 will break on a 9+, which is a 10/36 chance. AV7 will break on an 8+, which is a 15/36. 15 times out of 36 is 50% more than 10 times out of 36. (And AV6 is 21/36, which is 110% more likely than AV8 to break). What you've done is to take the difference, ie 5/36, which is indeed 14%, but that's not the right way to do it.
    Hehe, okay, I see what you meant. I mean the absolute chance of getting a hit out of those 2 dice is 14% more rather than the relative as compared to AV8 :)

    Even more so, playing halflings means 150% more chance of being squished than amazons if compared to the chance of being hit with AV8 :) (not to mention they get a shift in injury severity :))

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChainsawHands View Post
    Your maths are wrong. Well, your calculations are correct, but you've done the wrong calculation. AV8 will break on a 9+, which is a 10/36 chance. AV7 will break on an 8+, which is a 15/36. 15 times out of 36 is 50% more than 10 times out of 36. (And AV6 is 21/36, which is 110% more likely than AV8 to break). What you've done is to take the difference, ie 5/36, which is indeed 14%, but that's not the right way to do it.
    This also shows what an enormous kicker the Mighty Blow skill is as well:
    • 24% more likely to hurt an AV 6 player.
    • 40% more likely to break an AV 7 player.
    • 50% more likely against an AV 8 player.
    • 67% more likely versus an AV 9 player.


    Although it has greater effect on heavier armours, Mighty Blow is most relevant against AV 7 teams. The skill takes the % of beating AV from below 50% (specifically 41.8%) to over 50% (58.3%), making it the most likely outcome - and an outcome which will happen more often than not. Nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwie View Post
    Although it has greater effect on heavier armours, Mighty Blow is most relevant against AV 7 teams. The skill takes the % of beating AV from below 50% (specifically 41.8%) to over 50% (58.3%), making it the most likely outcome - and an outcome which will happen more often than not. Nasty.
    Yes, hence why I reason in _absolute_ chances rather than comparing differences.
    Rolling 7 on 2 dice is the most likely combination as one will get one every time out of six... And indeed moving that from "i'm safe" to "i'm in trouble" is the nastiest effect it can have on players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexing Vision View Post
    They do have 4 fairly agile players with access to all the good skills though. Zon-Blitzers make Chaos look tame. Right, alh_p and ntw? ;)
    I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a dark elf coach and always have been. Rumours to the contrary are libelous allegations :P


    The shame, the shame!

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    I don't teach maths all day so I can come home to some maths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiiiiim View Post
    I don't teach maths all day so I can come home to some maths.
    It's not maths though, it's maffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntw View Post
    ..or a penance for previous sins against Nuffle.
    It was actually a personal attempt to attain Zen. It worked, now I'm playing necromantic and I'm gonna kill some stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiiiiim View Post
    I don't teach maths all day so I can come home to some maths.
    You're not home already are you?

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    by which I mean, because I'm burgling your house and ought to make an escape.

    NB if your house is burgled, it wasnt actually me. i'm at work being very productive. Clearly.
    Last edited by alh_p; 25-01-2012 at 05:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexing Vision View Post
    They do have 4 fairly agile players with access to all the good skills though. Zon-Blitzers make Chaos look tame. Right, alh_p and ntw? ;)
    TBH sickly kittens made my Nurgle look tame...
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    Big congrats to jolima who has won the championship again.

    With a vampire team.

    Amazing stuff.

    Myself and Alethron are tied on 4 points, I sense a dramatic tie break coming...

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    Yup, well done Jolima, it seems many seasons since you flattened my norse with those vamps, I'm trying to claw my way back up to the top to bash you again, but with tougher chaps this time round. Still a remarkable achievement with one of the 'lower tier' teams (of which vamps are definitely the strongest!), but remembering how well you played them against me last time, I'm not surprised you're still up there :-).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiiiiim View Post
    I don't teach maths all day so I can come home to some maths.
    So teaching math is what drinking bootleg gin is called these days, thanks for the tip!

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    Damn you Jolima, you're making me look bad.

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    Congratulations, Jolima! It also was a pleasure to spar with you this Season - I'll be back. ;)

    Against me, laneford performed better with TD+cas difference than Alethron - I think you'll have to stay there.
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    Gratz Jolima on the Three-peat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapouille View Post
    It's not maths though, it's maffs.
    Wreck your shit with math.
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    Jolima! I shall take you down! Next season!

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    Drawlien's amazon team smashed all comers into a fine paste in the RPS Open a couple of seasons ago. I kept insisting amazons were terrible at high TV, and Drawlien's amazons kept proving me horribly wrong.

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