View Poll Results: What should the new look divisions look like?

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    There's already at least one woman in the league: Xenny, my girlfriend/better half/partner/mistress/concubine/something or other... I'm not sure which she'd be most offended by in fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Cubo View Post
    I don't think this has been done yet, so I plead: Could the powers that be reset the Div. 5 match between Wayward Gladiators and Cheez It!? We got Cyanided earlier.
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    I'll write it up later but I'd be grateful if our benevolent overlords could validate mine and Dragon's game in Div B, got a level on a wolf out of it.

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    If I'd known Xenny was a girl, I would not have fouled her Yheti. There are some things an English gentleman does not do, and one of those things is fouling a lady's Yheti.

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    John just decimated me 4-0. Honestly, I've been destroyed this entire league by TV differences of over 500. There has to be something we can do about this? I've earnt barely 20 ssp, and 5 of the ssp I did earn on a mummy went to nothing because he died - meaning my TV only goes downwards. I'm now hovering at TV 880.

    Also, I haven't knocked anyone down in 2 games without using a re-roll. I guess what I'm trying to ask is - is there some big secret you're all using to kick me around the field as two different teams, I've had 1 TD in 6 matches. Even the undead, a team that is supposed to be "bashy" has been outbashed by Wood Elves.

    I'm just so demoralised I don't really understand what I'm doing wrong and why everything seems to go against me, even when it's supposed to be "random".
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    Beauty and the Beast 4 - Warpstone Wranglers 0

    Big Inducements for the Wranglers.

    One side enjoyed the game of Elfball. The other couldn't knock over a drunken doddery old woman...which kinda sucked for them as they were the bashy team. Thanks for the game DWZippy, keep the faith in Nuffle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DWZippy View Post
    Even the undead, a team that is supposed to be "bashy" has been outbashed by Wood Elves.

    I'm just so demoralised I don't really understand what I'm doing wrong and why everything seems to go against me, even when it's supposed to be "random".
    Undead are not bashy, Undead are "relentless" and "impossible to keep down".

    Lets look at some statistics

    Max block players on pitch at 0 level ups:
    11:Norse, dwarf
    6:Chaos Dwarf (added next edition)
    4:Amazon, Dark Elf, Human, Orc,
    2:Elf, Undead,High Elf,Khemri,Necromantic, Skaven,Wood Elf
    0:Others

    I agree that strength matters, so lets count Str 4 and 5 players, or rather, the sum strength over 3 each possible. For example 4 st4(+4) players and 1 st5(+2) player =6
    12: Ogre
    8:Goblin,Khemri,Lizardman
    6:Chaos,Halflings*,Nurgle,Orc,Vampire
    4: Chaos Dwarf,Norse,Undead
    3: Wood Elf
    2:Human,Necromantic,Skaven
    0: Others

    Again the Undead are overshadowed in terms of raw might, but the fact is Undead teams dont go broke, they get obscenely rich meaning you can swap out any players who didn't get a double you really needed or pick up a -AV you cant stand for.

    IMHO Undead are like playing with training wheels on, the worse excesses of Nuffle are limited but you are never going to progress very fast.
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    I'd agree with that, like Khemri their strength is deceptive. They're more one of the odd middle ground teams, along with Humans and Necro - they're about controlling space on the pitch rather than HULK SMASH. Good team though, solid at pretty much any TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NieA7 View Post
    Good team though, solid at pretty much any TV.
    Just don't be ashamed to retire and replace any mummy who doesn't roll double on that first skill, I held back and its one of my biggest regrets. A st5 player without block is usually an impediment a team works around but still a useful utility, but Undead have vaults full of cash so why put up with a crap roll? If you rll +ST consider keeping it and getting multiblock later (unless you roll another double then multiblock can wait) All of a sudden Triple dice or smack 2 people are legitimate options.

    Get kick ASAP and consider wrestle on zombies (dont be afraid to disable it on the defence if it will cause an opponent a turn over).

    They are a SLLLLOOOOW team to develop, like any shambling zombie horde. For inducements Consider wizards and bribes, Undead often win games by attrition, if they are all lying down they cant stop you running the ball about.
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    With my undead team I've found they hold their own through sheer longevity more than anything. You can also afford to foul like a monster given the amount of almost worthless players you can field, though I try to be selective with this. Tie good players up with the zombies and focus on pounding the soft underbelly with your wights and mummies. Eventually the ghouls can do passable elfballing, too, but you have to keep 'em safe.

    The other good thing is that they basically stall at 1600-1700 TV so you are guaranteed inducements against the bigger teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWZippy View Post
    I'm just so demoralised I don't really understand what I'm doing wrong and why everything seems to go against me, even when it's supposed to be "random".
    As one of the teams you had to fight this season was mine, I feel that I should mention that you were indeed fighting against developed (well, a bit at least) opponents. Both my Orcs and the Presters Woodelves had some games under the belt before meeting you in the Divisions this season.

    For one, I was really lucky with my KOs and injuries in the game against you, meaning that the Orcs could fully play to their strength: Setting up a meatgrinder and giving each other additional blocks. Woodelves are pretty much the worst team to face right after such a beatdown, especially if the Elves already got some Dodge or Block on their players.

    So I don't think that you are missing some magic secret to victory. It is more that inducements can't always really make up for the differences between teams. At the beginning (and this is still true to some degree now) I found it incredibly hard to go up against Woodelves at all. They are just such a powerful team (maybe even the overall best team) and their playstyle (protecting the ball with space, running around you, dodging with Ag4 & Dodge skill, etc.) makes them very frustrating to face.

    I say you should see if you've got any players worth keeping for next season (i.e. some guys with levels or 5 SPPs) and see how your team compares against a fresh Undead team. If you're stuck in a downward spiral, maybe you can reboot an identical team. We are in the lower most Division, after all.

    On a more general level, this is what happens when teams don't perform very well pointwise (this is my case) but are durable enough to keep their SPPs and levels on the players. I got demoted last season and now the new teams have to deal with Orcs that have lots of Block, Mighty Blow and overall Strength. Prester got into the Division via bad luck, as far as I know and should practically play in two Divisions above the current tier.

    I don't know if there is much that can be done about this problem. But I assume that next season won't be as brutal as this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiiiiim View Post
    Eventually the ghouls can do passable elfballing, too, but you have to keep 'em safe.
    Blah, they live fast, they die young, death of the occasional ghouls are a healthy excess that you can afford. My biggest ghoul tip is don't give them skills that make them an overt target unless you are willing to protect them.

    Skills that get the ghouls targeted are: Block, Guard, Strip ball, Tackle, Wrestle, Pro, Sneaky Git, Dirty player.... Sorry, I misread my notes*. Expect ghouls with *any* skill or stat ups to pick up a career ending injury at the hands of malicious opponents because they know they cant reliably hurt anyone else.

    *Fend and Side step and Jump up(Surehands/dump off if he's carrying the ball)tend to put people off hitting you
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    So should I reboot again next season? I just want a squad that is bashy, and doesn't die all of the time.

    - Suggestions? I'm tired of getting pasted endlessly by every single team I come across.
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    I would say Orcs, if a race slot is available. Really bashy, lots of Strength, high armor. Just a bit slow and therefore tricky to score with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWZippy View Post
    So should I reboot again next season? I just want a squad that is bashy, and doesn't die all of the time.

    - Suggestions? I'm tired of getting pasted endlessly by every single team I come across.
    TBH, its likely got more down to your luck/strategy than undead, but that said an undead side slipping below 1000 TV seems oddly bad luck.

    Yeah, Maybe try out another team if you want, or retry Undead.

    That said I'm abandoning my Undead team after several seasons with them to try out Dark Elves because their progress was just getting too slow for me. Its not an objectively bad team, its just one where position matters move than movement and tha's hard to learn.

    Quote Originally Posted by squirrelfanatic View Post
    I would say Orcs, if a race slot is available. Really bashy, lots of Strength, high armor. Just a bit slow and therefore tricky to score with.
    Orcs are full, the best learner side open is Humans, you start with 4 blitzers and the option for an ogre (I'd check out what sides you were set against as he'll likely be a liability until you get pro).

    A snapshot of the race balance table, 5=full.
    Amazon 3
    Chaos 5
    Dark Elf 4
    Dwarves 4
    Elf 3
    High Elf 3
    Human 4
    Khemri 4
    Lizard Men 5
    Necromantic 5
    Norse 4
    Nurgle 4
    Orc 5
    Skaven 5
    Undead 5
    Wood Elf 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiiiiim View Post
    You can also afford to foul like a monster given the amount of almost worthless players you can field, though I try to be selective with this. Tie good players up with the zombies and focus on pounding the soft underbelly with your wights and mummies.
    I find it really hard to foul with a necro team (which is basically the same kind of thing as undead) - I love the idea of using zombies to kick people off the pitch but their movement, Ag and basic purpose in life (standing next to Horrible Things) makes it very difficult to free enough up to foul anyone. Or maybe I'm just doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by DWZippy View Post
    So should I reboot again next season? I just want a squad that is bashy, and doesn't die all of the time.

    - Suggestions? I'm tired of getting pasted endlessly by every single team I come across.
    Good starter bashy teams are Dwarf and Orc. Amazon and Norse are bashy from the start too, but AV 7 is always going to be difficult to manage. I reckon the best team to learn the game with is Humans as they start being able to do a bit of everything and can be specialised in different directions, but it's unquestionable a painful way of learning.
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    Yeah as I say, I don't foul in a blanket fashion but the *possibility* is there and I try to make sure I bring out the DP zombies when I'm receiving on Turn 8 or whatever to get a juicy target. I had this game recently though, where I induced a chainsaw and he proceeded to foul the entire orc team off the pitch before his chainsaw finally kicked back on turn 11. They had two players left at the end, was glorious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everblue View Post
    There are some things an English gentleman does not do, and one of those things is fouling a lady's Yheti.
    I, for one, was quite shocked to hear about the Yheti fouling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NieA7 View Post
    Good starter bashy teams are Dwarf
    I wouldn't recommend dwarves as a good starter team. Yes, they're very tough and survivable, but their very low speed makes scoring tough and good positional play a must.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWZippy View Post
    So should I reboot again next season?
    I'd stick with your current team personally, and just accept that they're slow starters. My record with the gobbos in this league so far has been 0-1-5 (could maybe have been 0-2-4 if it wasn't for extreme stupidity on my part in one game) but has been a lot of fun, and I really feel as if they're getting somewhere now.

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