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19-07-2012, 01:09 PM #41
I do not know much about this developer, so let me have an understanding of the story out of their own version. They are complaining that MS charged them for patching a patch of a published game, unfair as MS had charged for certification to publish and the patch that followed. And they dont think the bug involved was something that serious.
Now I have to say that I believe it is completely that developer's fault. I said completely, not something like MS did a bit wrong. You release a faulty IT product, that is a fact. You, not your publishing partner, should be held responsible for the loss over the issue. How minor that error is, it is still an error. If it is so minor, why would you bother to correct it? Let's not kid ourselves, FEZ understands that they should patch out the bug (and out of a patch, that is not cool), but they dont want to pay. MS may be not considerate enough to accomodate an indie developer in such manner, but being not considerate enough is not a guilt at all.
Dont try to claim the moral highground by playing with the holy title "indie developer", if you cannot go with only 2 employees, it's not MS fault, it's yours, FEZ.
Youths these days should learn to bear responsibility. When one makes mistakes, pay up or shut up, embrace the lesson to do it better next time. Stop playing with such politics game, that's not a healthy social phenomenon.
Plus, may I add one essential point: MS is the very first one accomodating patching for console games. If you publish on Gamecube / Playstation 2 and have a major screw-up, you may end up being a defendent in a class action lawsuit (god knows what people would sue you for compensation).
Last edited by squirrel; 19-07-2012 at 01:17 PM.
19-07-2012, 01:15 PM #42
19-07-2012, 01:41 PM #43
19-07-2012, 01:44 PM #44
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1. Call out other developers for making shit games
2. Release a shit game
3. Refuse to fix shit game
Someone above me mentioned MAYBE buying this in an idie bundle one day. It would actually keep me from buying a bundle. You know that smug asshole would think his shit game was the reason everyone was buying it. I wouldn't even download it if it were free to be honest."game sales for consoles destroys pc games completely why do u think they are so cheap on steam lol."
-Random console gamer
19-07-2012, 01:48 PM #45I'm failing to writing a blog, specifically about playing games the wrong way
19-07-2012, 01:57 PM #46
I've personally never been a fan of "The guy is a dick, I am gonna deprive myself of whatever". Decide to buy a game based on the quality of the game, not the dude selling it.
For example, one of my favorite comics these days is X-Factor (the mutant investigation team, not the reality TV show). The writer, Peter David, is a royal assclown who could turn a story about the ghost of JFK choking a puppy at the bottom of a well into bashing of Republicans. Just because I want to strangle him every time he talks about something other than sci-fi and comics doesn't mean I can't enjoy the comics he writes.
GoG have a horrifyingly bad PR team that basically only ever got lucky with one angle (calling everything "100% DRM Free" even though it is probably closer to 80 or 90%) and screwed up just about every other angle (seriously, think of a single PR stunt that has ever gone well for GoG :p). Does that have any real bearing on whether or not it is worthwhile to buy from their website?
All the fez dev has really done, at least to me, is prove that nobody should ever pre-order his games. Let other people bugtest, then see if he is going to patch. And that's it.
19-07-2012, 02:02 PM #47
19-07-2012, 02:13 PM #48
He's just sounds like some fool who doesn't deal with the limelight well, certainly not worthy of my hatred or attention.
19-07-2012, 02:21 PM #49
19-07-2012, 02:24 PM #50
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Not read the replies yet... BUT HAS NO ONE SEEN WHAT TEAM MEAT BOY HAD HAPPEN!?!?!?!
Oh, I'm less angry now. This has happened so many times in the past, when are companies going to learn?
World of Goo already lost a purchase from me when they were told by their Console Publishers they had to take down the PC store during the Console release dates (to cover an exclusivity deal). I loaded up their page to buy, only to be greeted with an excuse, so I told myself it's their loss. :P
19-07-2012, 02:26 PM #51
19-07-2012, 02:31 PM #52
19-07-2012, 02:57 PM #53
If I had a genie/three-wish-situation, I'm pretty sure one would be that troll could never be used as a verb again.
Except in the fishing/actual definition context.
19-07-2012, 03:04 PM #54
19-07-2012, 03:13 PM #55
I am referring to the need to authenticate to download the game and patches. Many disagree, but it is hard to say they are "100% DRM-Free". But they are close enough that nobody cares, and "100%" sounds better than "80 to 90%". Thus, it is their one successful PR move that didn't involve The Witcher (which I credit to CD Projekt Red)
19-07-2012, 03:16 PM #56
19-07-2012, 03:19 PM #57
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19-07-2012, 03:19 PM #58
GoG: you have to log-in to download the game (authenticating that you have the rights to said digital media) as well as any patches (normal patches don't work for GoG games, usually).
Its a very mild form of DRM (possibly the bare minimum that isn't "The honor system") and MANY people will argue it isn't by virtue of very specific definitions of DRM, but it is just to show that GoG did manage to get at least one bit of PR right.
19-07-2012, 03:28 PM #59
Of course you have to log in. Otherwise it would be TPB. The DRM-free refers to the game itself (once downloaded).
Anyway, yeah, off topic. As far as Fez, I'm also not of the mind that if I don't like the creator, that I should boycott the product. However, if he has demonstrated an unwillingness to fully support his products, I don't know why I should trust him to do so on PC or anywhere else.
19-07-2012, 04:47 PM #60I don't know why I should trust him to do so on PC or anywhere else.There's no manifesto. There's no formal plan.