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    Quote Originally Posted by mouton View Post
    Not a nice thing to say. If I was in charge, I would have to be responsible and all that. I am not so I can say stuff.
    It was facetious. Forgive me, though, if I do doubt your abilities as a world leader in any case. Even the well-prepared ones tend to be woefully under-prepared. It's a tough gig.
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    Mortar rounds missing their target? There's an app for that.
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    So, uum, with all this talk of American intervention, wouldn't Obama's dropping a bunch of missiles without UN authorization kind of make the organization irrelevant like the League of Nations was when Japan and Germany withdrew from it before WWII's onset? Doesn't really give any moral justification of the US pissing on another country's soil too.

    Then there's the talk of the rebels using chemical weapons to precipitate a Western attack on Assad. There have been conflicting reports on whether the rebels actually possess chemical weapons or not in the newspapers and on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane View Post
    So, uum, with all this talk of American intervention, wouldn't Obama's dropping a bunch of missiles without UN authorization kind of make the organization irrelevant like the League of Nations was when Japan and Germany withdrew from it before WWII's onset? Doesn't really give any moral justification of the US pissing on another country's soil too.
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    The past three-and-some-change US presidential terms have been one, long, middle finger to the UN.
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    Clinton also ignored the UN when he felt like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephro View Post
    Clinton also ignored the UN when he felt like it.
    It's a matter of scale at that point. Where you draw the line is up to you. I don't think Clinton has anything on these past two administrations.
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    Syria: Agony of victims of 'napalm-like' school bombing
    'Please let it be over'


    We visited Ahmed, in a Turkish hospital, a few weeks after the incident. Described as a hard working boy with a smiley face, he now has 40% burns to his body.

    "I'm in a lot of pain," he said. "I had a fever all last night. I'm in pain on my neck and my shoulder.


    "Why bomb us while we are at school. Why?"



    I don't think this boy gave a shit whether he was burned by chemical weapons, napalm, or another incendiary device, or whether the Syrian Army or FSA or Al Qaeda attacked him.

    40% burns over his body, image suggests mostly 3rd degree, the amount of water loss he suffered and hypovolemic shock and risk of infection likely almost killed this kid.

    Fucking unbelievable.

    Everyone just stops giving a shit because no chemical weapons, ffs.

    USA and Russia together could have prevented this conflict by not breeding it, the blood is also on their hands!
    When we last saw Siham, in the Aleppo hospital, she was screaming in pain. She is now in a ward alongside Ahmed, in Turkey. She told us the day we visited that her body still feels like it is burning.She was in her final year of school. Described as one of the smartest in her class she is now suffering with 70% burns.

    "Please let it be over now", she said. "We need to find a way out. We've had all we can take."


    As the controversy over chemical weapons dies down, the world's attention will once again move on from Syria.


    But for those whose lives are being torn apart by war, the suffering continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman29 View Post
    USA and Russia together could have prevented this conflict by not breeding it, the blood is also on their hands!
    Stop blaming everything that happens to the Arabs on outside forces, seriously. While Russia and USA did/do their share of meddling, Syria conflict was mostly caused by fundamental religious and political issues, most of which were entirely homegrown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouton View Post
    Stop blaming everything that happens to the Arabs on outside forces, seriously. While Russia and USA did/do their share of meddling, Syria conflict was mostly caused by fundamental religious and political issues, most of which were entirely homegrown.
    It's not worth arguing with Rockman29 over this, he firmly believes that everything evil has come out of the West and we're fighting a clandestine war to... destabilise the region to bring stability to it or some nonsense. The fact that the Syrian government had a horrible history of human rights abuse and that there are these religious fundamentalist nutters in the mix is apparently irrelevant. Now resume your self-loathing this instant, and you'll damn well like it!
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    Russia is 'the west' now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordcooper View Post
    Russia is 'the west' now?
    Christ cooper, didn't you get the message? Majestic 12 is running the show, there hasn't been an east since the Cold War.

    Okay yeah I forgot he mentioned Russia but the 'east/west' division is one of convenience today anyway, they're more western than they were in say the Cold War. I'm sure what he meant to say is "capitalism kills" or some nonsense.
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    I spilled my drink.




    Anyway, twin car bombing in Damascus yesterday. Apaprently rebels even "notified everyone to stay away from government property" this day. How cute. And another suicide bombing in other city in Idlib. Allah knows who did it though, conflicting reports and no claims.

    and some read by a former IDF terror expert about Nusra

    http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/Dat...1861409435.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldvvvave View Post
    Anyway, twin car bombing in Damascus yesterday. Apaprently rebels even "notified everyone to stay away from government property" this day. How cute.
    As cute as the government bombarding indiscriminately whole cities?

    What are you trying to say? That rebels are bad? Sure they are, but I got memory. And I remember back when there was no civil war and only street protests. And what the government did to these protests time and again and what it did to those who it arrested.

    Assad and his friends wanted the situation to be sectarian from the start, they were calling protesters "terrorists" back when no one did any terrorizing yet. Nusra and many rebels are scum and barbarians, but they did not appear overnight, oh no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouton View Post
    That rebels are bad? Sure they are, but I got memory. And I remember back when there was no civil war and only street protests. And what the government did to these protests time and again and what it did to those who it arrested.
    For sure, the state was terrible, and the rebels when they started were as close to "good guys" as you could get I suppose. Now though the religious fundamentalists have hijacked the rebellion. Arguably sectarianism was inherent from the start of the revolution though I guess the entire thing is a mess. Whatever happened though there's a strong Islamic streak, and a theocracy isn't going to be much better than Assad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soldant View Post
    For sure, the state was terrible, and the rebels when they started were as close to "good guys" as you could get I suppose. Now though the religious fundamentalists have hijacked the rebellion. Arguably sectarianism was inherent from the start of the revolution though I guess the entire thing is a mess. Whatever happened though there's a strong Islamic streak, and a theocracy isn't going to be much better than Assad.
    There will be no theocracy. It's all fucked. There is no hope. Unless there are some chancy developments they will murder each other for a decade or two and in the end it will change nothing, just like in Yugoslavia or Lebanon.

    The only thing that could have some small chance of solving it, is an overwhelming foreign intervention. Not gonna happen, so buy a loooot of popcorn and enjoy the bodyparts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouton View Post
    There will be no theocracy.
    Oh I agree, I'm just pointing out that the people mindlessly shouting "Go rebels!" apparently don't know what's really going on.

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    so buy a loooot of popcorn and enjoy the bodyparts.
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